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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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I dont know if this is a problem or not:

I turn on my ignition, rev a little to reverse out my garage.
All the sudden a huge amounts of BLUE smoke comes out my exhaust and smells like ****.

Anyone can think of an hypothesis?
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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blue smoke? lots of things...

1) running very rich
2) oil rings shot
3) i still love you
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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you should give a little more info:
How long was the car sitting for?
It can <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Soup **** &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">blue smoke? lots of things...

1) running very rich
2) oil rings shot
3) Maybe some worn valve seals</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Soup **** &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">blue smoke? lots of things...

1) running very rich
2) oil rings shot
3) i still love you</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks .... Well I have JDM Cat w/ the check engine light on (USDM ECU) would that cause it?? or maybe the oil rings are still shot??

It was quite a bit a smoke tho *blue*&
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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Default Re: Another Problem with the R.... (JDM TypeR 508)

Just chilling in my garage for about two days
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM TypeR 508 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Thanks .... Well I have JDM Cat w/ the check engine light on (USDM ECU) </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope.

IIRC, you car does have 100K+ miles. It could be the rings.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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98k
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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Oil rings most likely..... Whatever it is, your motor is burning oil... somehting thats supposed to keep the oil out of the cumbustion chamber isnt doing its job.... Rings or valve seals.... Do a compression then a leakdown test... good luck
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Derek14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oil rings most likely..... Whatever it is, your motor is burning oil... somehting thats supposed to keep the oil out of the cumbustion chamber isnt doing its job.... Rings or valve seals.... Do a compression then a leakdown test... good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is the best answer given....

Blue smoke - oil

Black smoke - Running rich

White - Coolant burning

If it was right after startup and never any other time, then it's almost for sure, your valve seals...while the engine is off, it will drip down oil into the combustion chamber...then you start it up and it burns that little bit of oil off and that's it....if it's all the time? "Now you gotta tear apart the block and replace the piston rings ya fried!!" Haha, just a little F&F humor.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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Default Re: Another Problem with the R.... (itr 00 0108)

what do you do for white smoke/coolant burning? mine seems to do this but i store it alot. (only 8k miles)
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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Without seeing your car, I can almost guarantee you that you aren't burning coolant and it's just condensation...nothing to worry about unless your rad is losing it's juice...

If that is the case, your head gasket left for vacation and it isn't coming back...
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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thanks
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 11:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr 00 0108 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

This is the best answer given....

Blue smoke - oil

Black smoke - Running rich

White - Coolant burning

If it was right after startup and never any other time, then it's almost for sure, your valve seals...while the engine is off, it will drip down oil into the combustion chamber...then you start it up and it burns that little bit of oil off and that's it....if it's all the time? "Now you gotta tear apart the block and replace the piston rings ya fried!!" Haha, just a little F&F humor.</TD></TR></TABLE>


very write up , yeah if its blue your your burrnin a little bit of oil. It sucks to tare appart a motor to replace some dam rings.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 11:44 PM
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Default Re: Another Problem with the R.... (JDM TypeR 508)

Thanks guys... I guess I will be out of an R for awhile now... Looking to get it rebuilt!!... But any suggestions if I should get an oversized pistons or not
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 11:46 PM
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do i hear CTR pistons ringing in your ear?
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 02:16 AM
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hey man u never replied to itr 00 0108. if your car only puffs the smoke right after start up then that means its definitely your head.ie valve seals.but if its occasionaly or all the time then its your rings. look into it man before u rip apart a perfectly good itr block. take off the head first and have it checked by a macine shop. they can do it for like 30bucks or so.
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Another Problem with the R.... (kyosoeg6)

Well... this is the first time all this Blue smoke appeared out of no where. This is when is tarted my car. There are times I would see this blue smoke when I floor my car...
I'm guessing the rings also now?
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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That's amazing that you only have 8k and your rings may be gone...that engine was not broken in properly to say the least...
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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No i ahve 98 k.... 98,000
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 01:14 PM
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Hey,

Blue smoke when you floor it (after warm up) is usually rings.

Blue smoke when you first start up in morning is generally valve seals.

Blue smoke when you let off on the gas pedal at high RPM is a sign of bad valve guides.

Before you tear anything down makes sure that your PCV system is working OK and check if your oil is diluted with raw gas. If running rich the gas has to go somewhere and that's into your oil which can make problems worse.

At 98K you probably will need to go to the first available oversize on the pistons.

John
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 01:20 PM
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What Oversized Pistons is reccommended? Spoon? or OE? Where can I get them?
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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Default Re: Another Problem with the R.... (JDM TypeR 508)

BLUE SMOKE=OIL BURN
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 08:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Art Vandeleigh &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BLUE SMOKE=OIL BURN</TD></TR></TABLE>

Gee, you're a few days behind Art....

98k sounds a little better, even though I think it's early for a car to be burning oil...hopefully it isn't your rings.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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He has been mentioning the he has been burning A LOT of oil lately.

I'm sure we have come to the right conclusion about the rings being shot.
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