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i have strange alignment numbers after my rear disc conversion / SPC lower control arm install

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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 06:58 AM
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Default i have strange alignment numbers after my rear disc conversion / SPC lower control arm install

let me first say the lower arms are shorter than oem arms, which greatly affected my camber.
before the instal itwas about -2.8 both sides (forget exact #'s)
now after alignment here are my numbers

Front LEFT
CAMBER -1.2
CASTER +1.2
TOE +0.04

Front RIGHT
CAMBER -1.2
CASTER +1.7
TOE +0.04

Rear LEFT
CAMBER +1.2
TOE +0.02

Rear RIGHT
CAMBER +0.2
TOE -0.07

I'm really worried about my rear numbers, especially the toe and the fact that two camber numbers are not even close!!!
i have grond control coilovers, so i might try to adjust the height to help with the camber a bit

your thoughts please!!

oh yeah pics of the new arms will be posted later
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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Damn, it made your camber positive, that really sucks. How much did you drop the car? Are you sure you got the right application control arms? Shorter arms really sucks cuz you are reducing the track width of your car. A better way to adjust camber is by getting a kit that is at the upper control arm, not the lower. It looks like you barely dropped the car over an inch at the front. Try at least 1.5 inch drop front and rear.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:45 AM
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why dont you just adj. your rear toe?. also to solve the positive camber just drop that hoe more!
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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i checked
toe is maxxed out
and im dropped about 2 inches right now and camber kits on the upper arm make my rims rub against the rear panels
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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Default Re: (igo4bmx)

Happened to me too. Drives super funny, huh? Just get the sPC rear camber arms. They are cheap.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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your trailing arm is bent. same thing happend to me
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by igo4bmx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i checked
toe is maxxed out
and im dropped about 2 inches right now and camber kits on the upper arm make my rims rub against the rear panels </TD></TR></TABLE>

so give it alittle bit of negative camber to where it doesn't wear out your tires.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soundbomber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your trailing arm is bent. same thing happend to me </TD></TR></TABLE>

how can you tell? i used to have SI rear disc brakes on my 98 hatch and they gave me positive camber (i've taken them off). when i looked at them, though, they didn't appear to have any damage. since them, i have purchased a front and rear camber kit but im not sure whether i should put the rear discs back on.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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If your toe is maxed out then you will need something like the Suspension Techniques pro-align toe kit. Mine is out by one degree and I need the kit myself, but I haven't found anyone who distributes them except maybe ST themselves. I have a LS rear brake conversion and I'm not sure why the rear toe is off.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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i used stock si rear trailing arms the first time i went rear disk, i had + camber in the back really bad, so i used the drum trailing arms and everything was a-ok. it had to be the trailing arms
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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i'm hoping my trailing arm isn't bent!!
if so... import auto salvage gets a thumb down
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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yeah, cuz check this out.

With the trailing arms that came with the rear disks, i had 1.3 and 2.1 camber.

with the drum trailing arms on the rear disk spindle, i had -.7 and -1 camber.
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Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by soundbomber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, cuz check this out.

With the trailing arms that came with the rear disks, i had 1.3 and 2.1 camber.

with the drum trailing arms on the rear disk spindle, i had -.7 and -1 camber.</TD></TR></TABLE>

damn so much work!
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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does everyone agreei should get upper control arm camber kits, instead of trying to fix this issue?
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Old Aug 5, 2004 | 01:20 PM
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The SPC kit does come with the upper control arm camber adjustment (EZ arm). I think I'm going to take off my SPC rear lower control arms and replace them with some ITRs. It does drive a little sloppy ever since I installed the rear lower control arms; they are a .5" shorter then a regular OEM control arm.

Can this .5" shorter really effect the driving conditions of my car or is it just in my head?
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