New/Bigger gas tanks?
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New/Bigger gas tanks?
Has anyone gotten SO sick of the 10gallon tank that they swapped for a bigger one? If so, which did you use and modifications necessary..
To make a long story short, I'd like a mini writeup and pictures
To make a long story short, I'd like a mini writeup and pictures
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Re: New/Bigger gas tanks? (Mr Furball)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr Furball »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can put a fuel cell in </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: New/Bigger gas tanks? (^jefs0ng)
Don't have a write up, but Si's are 11.9 gal... I take it you have an HF?
Should fit like stock: undo the sender, undo those two straps, drop tank, maybe upgrade pump while your at it and reinstall.
Should fit like stock: undo the sender, undo those two straps, drop tank, maybe upgrade pump while your at it and reinstall.
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Re: New/Bigger gas tanks? (XrcR6)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by XrcR6 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't have a write up, but Si's are 11.9 gal... I take it you have an HF?
Should fit like stock: undo the sender, undo those two straps, drop tank, maybe upgrade pump while your at it and reinstall.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Haha I was hoping for more like 15.. and I don't want a fuel cell unless I really have to.. I can't use an integra one?
Should fit like stock: undo the sender, undo those two straps, drop tank, maybe upgrade pump while your at it and reinstall.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Haha I was hoping for more like 15.. and I don't want a fuel cell unless I really have to.. I can't use an integra one?
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Re: New/Bigger gas tanks? (Mr Furball)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr Furball »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can I ask why do you want a bigger gas tank? 
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its pretty obvious....
and a bigger gas tank would just be heavier, and have more heavy gas in it... who wants that??
</TD></TR></TABLE>its pretty obvious....
and a bigger gas tank would just be heavier, and have more heavy gas in it... who wants that??
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Re: New/Bigger gas tanks? (NINJASPY)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NINJASPY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
its pretty obvious....
and a bigger gas tank would just be heavier, and have more heavy gas in it... who wants that?? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Considering I drive a one seater with no radio and no interior what so ever I think the added weight from the tank will be standable
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WindyIce »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The integra one will sit down lower. Won't do you any good but maybe a fuel cell would be the way to go if you don't want just like 11 gals more
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Fuel cells are big and doesn't look "stock" only reason I don't want one.. Anyone got any pics of crxs with a fuel cell?
its pretty obvious....
and a bigger gas tank would just be heavier, and have more heavy gas in it... who wants that??
</TD></TR></TABLE>Considering I drive a one seater with no radio and no interior what so ever I think the added weight from the tank will be standable
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WindyIce »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The integra one will sit down lower. Won't do you any good but maybe a fuel cell would be the way to go if you don't want just like 11 gals more
</TD></TR></TABLE>Fuel cells are big and doesn't look "stock" only reason I don't want one.. Anyone got any pics of crxs with a fuel cell?
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Re: New/Bigger gas tanks? (^jefs0ng)
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Haha I was hoping for more like 15.. and I don't want a fuel cell unless I really have to.. I can't use an integra one?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I checked some Helm's I had, DA/DB and DC are all 13.2 gallons. I was thinking DA/DB might share some similarities with EF/ED's, but the entry for the fuel hose (from the filler cap location) is in the top-back-right corner of the tank (actually its the same on DC too). On EF/ED's its in the top-front-right. That's why our filler doors are right in front of the rear wheel and Integra's are just behind it.
You'd have work out that situation, either fab a new hose that bends from our filler location around the Integra tank (which there probably isn't any room for) or plug the hole in the Integra tank and create a new one for our stock filler pipe. And that's if the tank physically fits under the car.
So I thought maybe the Civic EX Sedan or the RT4WD Wagon would be better donors, but they use the same 11.9 gallon tank as the Si's.
The fuel cell route is expensive if done right. To put it in the right location, you'll have to cut and weld. And you'll probably loose the rear storage bin. Then you'll have get a new fuel pickup and pump and plumb it all.
I guess you could drive around with one of these:
and a funnel.
Haha I was hoping for more like 15.. and I don't want a fuel cell unless I really have to.. I can't use an integra one?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I checked some Helm's I had, DA/DB and DC are all 13.2 gallons. I was thinking DA/DB might share some similarities with EF/ED's, but the entry for the fuel hose (from the filler cap location) is in the top-back-right corner of the tank (actually its the same on DC too). On EF/ED's its in the top-front-right. That's why our filler doors are right in front of the rear wheel and Integra's are just behind it.
You'd have work out that situation, either fab a new hose that bends from our filler location around the Integra tank (which there probably isn't any room for) or plug the hole in the Integra tank and create a new one for our stock filler pipe. And that's if the tank physically fits under the car.
So I thought maybe the Civic EX Sedan or the RT4WD Wagon would be better donors, but they use the same 11.9 gallon tank as the Si's.
The fuel cell route is expensive if done right. To put it in the right location, you'll have to cut and weld. And you'll probably loose the rear storage bin. Then you'll have get a new fuel pickup and pump and plumb it all.
I guess you could drive around with one of these:
and a funnel.
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Well two brands that I see the most are:
Fuel Safe (http://www.fuelsafe.com/intro.html)
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ATL (http://www.atlinc.com/)
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/ and (http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/) sell Fuel Safe, you can get an idea of the prices for the various sizes. http://www.truechoice.com sell ATL, but their site isn't that easy to find stuff. Outside of labor (which may involve welding and sheetmetal fabrication), the cell is probably the next largest cost. Then there is all the pump, pickup, lines, hardware, etc. that will nickel and dime you.
For exampe, I volunteered with an Escort Endurance World Challenge team back when the 2G CRX's were used. They were complaining because SCCA ProRacing regulations at the time required them to run fuel cells. They spent +$3k for parts and installation; and weren't too happy. I think mainly because they spent all that money and didn't get any speed out of it.
I didn't take any pics, but from what I remember of their setup, they cut out the unibody sheetmetal above the stock tank area. Then the ATL was welded in, such that it was mostly underneath the car and partially in the rear cabin (area of the rear storage bin). A pipe was fabbed up to reach the standard filler area and mate to the top-center located hole on the cell. So we did refueling through the standard opening. They just used a rectangular cell. I know ATL has direct replacements now for WRX, Evo, Viper, Porsche, etc. I'm sure they don't have a CRX one, but you can get custom shapes now ($$$$).
Of course the $3k price tag is conforming to certain requirement/regulations and what I orginally hinted at being "done right". You can get cheaper "sportsman" cells or some of that stuff they sell in Summit for drag racing (JAZ brand I think). And you don't have to weld it in like the example I gave. I can't remember if they ever made it mandatory for IT, but IM some of the current roadracers with ITA CRX's. Maybe they have done a cell and have an exact parts list.
Fuel Safe (http://www.fuelsafe.com/intro.html)
and
ATL (http://www.atlinc.com/)
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/ and (http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/) sell Fuel Safe, you can get an idea of the prices for the various sizes. http://www.truechoice.com sell ATL, but their site isn't that easy to find stuff. Outside of labor (which may involve welding and sheetmetal fabrication), the cell is probably the next largest cost. Then there is all the pump, pickup, lines, hardware, etc. that will nickel and dime you.
For exampe, I volunteered with an Escort Endurance World Challenge team back when the 2G CRX's were used. They were complaining because SCCA ProRacing regulations at the time required them to run fuel cells. They spent +$3k for parts and installation; and weren't too happy. I think mainly because they spent all that money and didn't get any speed out of it.
I didn't take any pics, but from what I remember of their setup, they cut out the unibody sheetmetal above the stock tank area. Then the ATL was welded in, such that it was mostly underneath the car and partially in the rear cabin (area of the rear storage bin). A pipe was fabbed up to reach the standard filler area and mate to the top-center located hole on the cell. So we did refueling through the standard opening. They just used a rectangular cell. I know ATL has direct replacements now for WRX, Evo, Viper, Porsche, etc. I'm sure they don't have a CRX one, but you can get custom shapes now ($$$$).
Of course the $3k price tag is conforming to certain requirement/regulations and what I orginally hinted at being "done right". You can get cheaper "sportsman" cells or some of that stuff they sell in Summit for drag racing (JAZ brand I think). And you don't have to weld it in like the example I gave. I can't remember if they ever made it mandatory for IT, but IM some of the current roadracers with ITA CRX's. Maybe they have done a cell and have an exact parts list.
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Re: New/Bigger gas tanks? (NINJASPY)
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its pretty obvious....
and a bigger gas tank would just be heavier, and have more heavy gas in it... who wants that?? </TD></TR></TABLE>
yyyyyep
its pretty obvious....
and a bigger gas tank would just be heavier, and have more heavy gas in it... who wants that??
</TD></TR></TABLE>yyyyyep
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Re: New/Bigger gas tanks? (Mr Furball)
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yyyyyep </TD></TR></TABLE>
No matter for me, like I already stated. Thanks for the linkz0rs anyone got other first hand / personal experience? Is fuel cell just the EASIEST way to go? I don't want like a 30 gallon tankz0r..
BTW that fuelsafe link no work..
yyyyyep
</TD></TR></TABLE>No matter for me, like I already stated. Thanks for the linkz0rs anyone got other first hand / personal experience? Is fuel cell just the EASIEST way to go? I don't want like a 30 gallon tankz0r..
BTW that fuelsafe link no work..
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