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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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I and some other people have this noise coming from the timing belt area (H22, 800-1000rpm): http://www.volny.cz/veitel/prelude/noise/noise.mp3

The noise started immediately after the timing belt change (plus water pump, auto to manual tensioner conversion).

I tried everything, the result is: when I loose the timing belt a bit (I can, I have the manual tensioner), the noise is gone. When I tighten it to spec (according to the Helms), the noise is there.

Can the timing belt itself be greased/oiled so it makes this noise itself? Can I try to degrease it with some alcohol? The degrease looks pretty easy, so I will try it if it is safe - just to remove the valve cover and rotate/degrease the belt + cam gears by some towel.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 03:17 AM
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The timing belt should be dry. No oil or such. If you have any oil on it check your crank, camshaft and balancer shaft seals.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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i have the same problem my timing belt after getting it done makes a wining noise like a supercharger not sure how to fix it cause i've already tried another belt and it did the same thing.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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If your timing belt has been exposed to oil you should replace it. The oil will cause premature failure of the belt.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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You probably have the belt just a touch too tight. Any belt that has oil leaking on it should definetely be replaced.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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my buddy did his and we did mine (both h22s) and he said that it just does that for a ittle while then goes away. Mine went away after about a couple of weeks.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PhazedSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If your timing belt has been exposed to oil you should replace it. The oil will cause premature failure of the belt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree ^^^^^^^
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludelvr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my buddy did his and we did mine (both h22s) and he said that it just does that for a ittle while then goes away. Mine went away after about a couple of weeks. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Your new timing belt made this same noise? I have about 5000miles on the belt now...
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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It probably went away because it was just barely too tight and the belt stretched enough to finally quiet down.
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 09:18 AM
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ANybody knows the right slack on the timing belt?
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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If you feel a few, you'll just kinda know what's right. The correct procedure is to loosen the tensioner, turn over the motor by hand, then retighten the tensioner.....so the tensioner should do the job for you.
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 11:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yellow_jacket &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You probably have the belt just a touch too tight. Any belt that has oil leaking on it should definetely be replaced.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What he said, I had my belt too tight and it did that, losened it a bit and it went away. Got oil on it and it broke a couple weeks later.
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 06:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PhazedSI &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If your timing belt has been exposed to oil you should replace it. The oil will cause premature failure of the belt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

how bad is it...mine got oil on it, but its 150 for a new pe belt!
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastludeh22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

how bad is it...mine got oil on it, but its 150 for a new pe belt!</TD></TR></TABLE>

well i don't want to contradict anyone, but when i blew out my front balancer shaft seal, everything under the timing belt comver got a nice bath of dino 10-30 , and i just took it all apart and dryed it,

right now i am using that same belt on my f22b2/vtec project in my sig, and not having any problem, no cracking or stretching.. but if i wern't so dumb i would have replaced mine..
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 08:40 AM
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Not worth it to chance it, imo I'd change asap. Maybe not this day or week but soon, naw meeeaan!!
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelittlelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

well i don't want to contradict anyone, but when i blew out my front balancer shaft seal, everything under the timing belt comver got a nice bath of dino 10-30 , and i just took it all apart and dryed it,

right now i am using that same belt on my f22b2/vtec project in my sig, and not having any problem, no cracking or stretching.. but if i wern't so dumb i would have replaced mine..</TD></TR></TABLE>

ya this is the second pe belt i bought for stupid reasons, so im going to just keep an eye on it.

how tight do you normally keep the t-belts? i always give that lttle extra push on the tensior when tighting mine...
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Old May 4, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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I tighten the belt so it can be twisted no more than 90 degrees by hand at its longest point. Let the spring on the tensioner do what it is designed to do when you are installing the belt. you'd be surprised how loose you can run a belt. If i do have some noise, i will let the engine cool to about 140 degrees and loosen the adjuster 1/2 turn (while at #1 TDC) and then re-torque the bolt to specs. I recommend you run the engine for a few minutes if possible before installing the covers. just make sure you put the crank pulley back on for the "test run" or the belt might fly off the pulleys.
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Old May 4, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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i just listened to the audio and i'm hearing the exact same noise coming from mine. it's been doing it for the past month or two and still continues even after readjusting the tension multiple times.

a little loose. a little tight. all the same results.

the one funny thing that i discovered is. the noise goes completely away when i advance the distributor. retard it back to where it was, and the noise comes back.

very strange.

has anyone else noticed that the noise goes away with distributor movement?
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