im soon geeting ready to buy a brand new car and ive narrowed it down to the type R and the RX-7(FD's) and i would like to know how they size up to each other, which one is more reliable.which one has less theft threats and so on. i really am attraced to the R i have no clue why but i am. the other main thing i like about the RX-7 is that its 2 seater(friends wont ask for that much rides)

 

rx-7 is more reliable...hands down.

 

get the rx-7 u won't have to worrie about them stealing it like the type-r..

 

if you treat the rx7 good it will treat you good, watch out for the apex seal, rx7's require a little more maitnence but yield great power with minor mods and handle pretty good

 

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That's kinda misleading in my opinion Tom.

 

RX-7=apple ITR=orange

 

Mmm.... apples...

 

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Try a lot more maintence. There is a reason they are considered one of the most unreliable cars ever produced.

 

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I'm guessing this is sarcastic? Check out http://www.itrca.com, there was a semi-in depth discussion there about this exact topic. Just look under the General forum, it'll be somewhere sorta near the top.

 

FD babY its hardly even a comparison between the two cars, esp. when u start modding

 

Rx-7's are sweet, but from what I understand look forward to replacing the motor's at around 60k.

 

I have two friends with FDs .. VEEEERY nice cars but like everyone else is saying, they take a LOT of maintenance $$ and are prone to major damage if you do not mod them right.

I wouldn't compare these two cars; too many uncomparable issues between them. However, if its that you like both cars and want people's opinions to help you make up your mind that's another thing So, being that this IS an ITR forum and the fact that I own one, I'd say go with the R ..

 

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yes, the reason = moronic owners.

13B-REW's are about the worse 13b for reliability however, properly maint. and care will provide a long life. Of course the life will not be 100k or anything and the ITR is *FAR* more reliable.

However, the RX7 is IMO more fun to drive and that (to me anyways) is a key factor in a vehicle purchase.

However, if I was buying a daily driver, I'd get the ITR out of those two options.

 

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Are you on crack?
NOTHING is more reliable than a Honda... The Rx-7 (FD - TT) was one of the most unreliable cars ever made. They have constant overheating problems, the vacuoum (sp?) hoses are a friggin nightmare, and your'e lucky if the engine lasts more than 60K miles...

I love Rx7's, but I would never buy one because of the reliablity issues. The handling, accelleration, and braking is amazing, not too mention that they are possibly the best looking cars ever made, but the engine is unfortunately the downfall.

It is possible to mod them for reliability (larger radiator, more fans, etc) but they engine still won't last more than 80 to 100K miles...

 

everyone here with exception to the one guy that said RX7s are reliable is right on the money. i have an FD, bought it in november and within a week i was fixin it. i had a gas smell comin from it. well when u smell gas u fix it. about a month and a half later it was fixed. along the way i broke several sensors and ditched the emmissions BS. since ive owned the thing for about 3 months now its now eating coolant. personally i think they are POS, but i still wouldnt change my decision to buy it. its so fun to drive, its fairly quick but the handling is awesome, so predictable, just point it in the right direction and hit the gas. plus i did buy it for 2k under low blue book and its in pretty good shape, bone stock, only mods were the wheels. i say go check out rx7club.com and look around in the archives section.
the ITR i dont have to say much about, its slower but its a fun car to drive too and reliability will always b there. i say the biggest thing to worry about is it gettin stolen.

 

Yea, I'd definately say go wit hte ITR for daily driving/reliability.

Dave - your avatars man... everytime I see one I feel like I'm in the 80's !?!?!

 

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Comparing reliability between FD vs ITR? Pretty obvious.

Comparing theft issue between FD vs ITR? Pretty obvious.

Depends on your budget... really, if $ is not an issue, FD anyday.

btw, try http://www.clubrx7.com.

There is a check list of things you should do for shopping an FD, just the length of the document might turns you off from getting one (it does take a dedicated person to own an FD)

 

RX-7 by far is the Sweetest Body styles EVER made! I love me,..but reliability is a big unless you have a couple $1000 to make sure Apex Seals all the proper Coolant/components are upgraded!

The inside of FD is I would say about as "tight" fitting or tighter then a S2000.Very cramped inside(i don't really care) but it is very small!!!

If the RX-7 came w/ a Supra motor(2Jz) that would be the best car EVER in my eyes!!!!

I say get the R if you wanna drive the car and not look @ it sitting in your yard/garage whike its broke down.
Peter Farrell will be the man to call as soon as you buy an FD!!!

 

Wonder when the kids will start putting RX-8 renesis in old RX-7's if they didnt start already

 

ITR - Never heard of one needing a engine rebuild yet, except for people overrevving, adding turbos, nitrous and such.
RX-7 - rebuilds every 70k is very common.

ITR theft is the worst of all cars. A ferrari is less likely to be stolen that a ITR. This is a huge negative of owning this car. Most owners dont take it to the movies, the mall, etc.

&gt; RX-7 stats are:
&gt; Curb weight: 2800lbs
&gt; HP: 255bhp@6500rpm
&gt; 0-60: 4.9sec
&gt; 60-0: 113ft
&gt; Lateral acceleration: .93g


&gt; ITR stats are:
&gt; Curb weight: 2500lbs(some say 2600, but they're wrong)
&gt; HP: 195
&gt; 0-60: 6.2sec
&gt; 60-0: 115ft
&gt; Lateral acceleration: .93g


All that said, the 93+ RX-7 is the better car. The question is whether you can deal with rebuilding the engine every 4 years or so.

 

Apex seals on the FD were designed to last ~60k miles. The apex seals on the rx-8 were designed to last about ~150k. I've got the article around here that mentions it.

(runs to go dig it up)

 

ITR is way more reliable IMO. RX-7 engines have hard time lasting past 60k miles. Search for it all the hardcore rx-7 owners have prolly been through more than 1 motor. Read the new sport compact car magazine. That guy is on his 5th.

I say get rsx-s! haha rx-7's are amazing tho, find one w/ LOW mileage and pick it up

 

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You can find tons with only 60k on them. lol

 

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c'mon fellas, this is coming from Soup **** , you should KNOW not to listen to anything he says.

 

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LOL my next one will be the best.

and if you actually know the album cover pictured in my avatar.. well.. that's kinda sad lol