I know it's kinda small, but it'd be fun for up to say... 10psi?

What is different between the kit for the ls vs the kit for the b16?

 

I'll start by guessing the manifold is a different format than the b16 series heads.

 

you can always just get another Mani though. Then sell the one that you got with the kit if it dosn't work.

 

Im thinking it will work out. The complete kit. I would also try it, because you know High Compression turbo gets a from me.

If you do it Ken, i will HAVE to be informed so i can come get some footage.

 

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I thought so too, but maybe it's something as simple as modifying the bolt hole locations or something..... What's different about an exhaust manifold for LS vs itr?

Also, I was thinking the 18g would be good for an itr boosting less than 12psi.....

Thoughts?

 

it's a great kit, and I had the gsr kit on my old si and the exhaust mani is interchangable through all b-series i think. the only changes that may need to be made are the charge piping and downpipe. you also could not use the blue box, so you'd need some form of ems (AEM!). the 18g is a seriously underrated turbo, and is good for up to 300whp, which is plenty for almost anything you would want to do with the car (aside from drag racing ).
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I thought so too, but maybe it's something as simple as modifying the bolt hole locations or something..... What's different about an exhaust manifold for LS vs itr?

Also, I was thinking the 18g would be good for an itr boosting less than 12psi.....

Thoughts?</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

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I thought so too, but maybe it's something as simple as modifying the bolt hole locations or something..... What's different about an exhaust manifold for LS vs itr?

Also, I was thinking the 18g would be good for an itr boosting less than 12psi.....

Thoughts?</TD></TR></TABLE>

its internally wastegated.. thats money right thurrrr - you'll end up switching from that.. and i'm not sure on CFM on turbo, but its probably too small if you want to rev to 9K and stuff.

 

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its internally wastegated.. thats money right thurrrr - you'll end up switching from that.. and i'm not sure on CFM on turbo, but its probably too small if you want to rev to 9K and stuff.</TD></TR></TABLE>

with a properly sized downpipe that wastegate can handle right around 20 psi. so many people dog on the 18g because its not a precision (not saying you are!) and they never see the potential of the turbo, but it has put average weight tegs and civics into the 12's no problem.

 

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Nothing at all, regarding fitment.

I gave a friend of mine a USDM ITR manifold, he put it on his LS. Fit just fine.

 

How much? I'd just go custom if its more than $2,500 including IC (and that including hondata and injectors if you don't already have it).

 

As RJ has already stated, ALL B-series heads share the same exhaust port configuration.

The Greddy turbo kit with the TD06H-18G has great response with a relatively high compression engine behind it.

It should be fun.

 

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The Greddy turbo kit with the TD06H-18G has great response with a relatively high compression engine behind it.

It should be fun. </TD></TR></TABLE>

td05h-18g you can get a td06 20g though. my bro might get it for his wrx.

 

the kit will fit fine. it will bolt right on if its for an integra LS,
the issue i can see coming about is that little turbo running out of pep on the top end .

 

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the issue i can see coming about is that little turbo running out of pep on the top end . </TD></TR></TABLE>


Both you and vtec.dc2 have mentioned this... Would you suggest that I upgrade to a 20g in the future? I also have a turbonetics t3/t4 sitting here - but I assume I'd need a different manifold and possibly downpipe (+wastegate) should I want to use it. I'm not too turbo savvy, so what should I look for when trying to properly size the turbo? Effeciency in breathing at high rpms? How could I determine that?

 

I have the same kit on my car(from a GSR) I have a 2.5" DP and modded charge pipe that is it. you can't use the blue box from the kit and I would get some bigger injectors. check my sig for times and I run 15psi daily

 

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yea it works, but not as efficiently as a diff set up could.

but like i said , if you plan on sticking with that set up and not concerned with having a really worth whilke set up and just a gain in HP , then get it , but IMo it will not be optimal in the high end. then if you upgrade to a 20g it will be better, but still might be iffy. th emanifold might still be able to work though with a 20g, they are still both mistu turbos.

IMO, you have an R, do it right, dont cut corners.

 

turns out 18g is similar if not alsmost the same as my T04 S trim. i had not idea they were as large as my small t3/t4b.. i don't know about exhaust side and other than internally wastegated.. it will probalby work.

 

yeah it is a 400 crank HP turbo for sure. I will post #'s when I get tuned on the hondata on 15psi

 

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like i said. not as small/bad as everyone thinks! it's plenty for a honda!

 

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.....would you mind listing your entire setup please?

 

I really don't know too much about turbos but on such a high compression motor aren't you kinda making it a ticking timebomb? Toda A's still gonna be in the motor? If not wanna sell them to me?

 

i have seen that TD05 turbo many times. it it tiny as hell . the downside to a smaller turbo is less flow/cfm which = less power and breathing capability in the long run.

Then again what do i know. This is all an educated guess

 

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.....would you mind listing your entire setup please?</TD></TR></TABLE>

sure, as of right now this is what is in the car:
greddy kit from gsr with modified charge pipe and 2.5" DP
450cc injectors
cartech FMU
255lph fuel pump
missing link
afc
inline pro head gasket and block gaurd
act clutch and flywheel
skunk 2 cam gears
AEM FPR
stock internals, exhaust, and full weight will all acess.

I have a hondata 4B, 3 bar map and 945cc precision injectors ready to go in

 

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Then again what do i know. This is all an educated guess </TD></TR></TABLE>


Oh believe me Pete, I respect your opinion where boost is concerned.

I just want to get an entry-level kit to start out. I need something kinda small that'll spool up quick for autox. I don't want a monster just yet - something that'll cover 300whp is fine. 12's on street tires would be a plus.

Hopefully, this baby kit will get me started. I am already eyeing the lovefab mani as an "upgrade," and this t3/t4 might be needed... isn't that the same turbo you were using? No longer?

BoostedITR41, are those the dsm injectors you're using currently? What is the thickness of the inline pro headgasket you put on? (1mm?) And what does it lower your static c/r to? (9.6:1?)

Chris, yes the spec a's are staying in the car. I'd like to see if they're better than the stock cams with boost..... I have some spec b's for sale though if you're interested.....

 

it costs alot more to upgrade. honestly. id start out with a little something more. Thats my opinion though. Ive upgraded mine and i can tell you it sucks and is expensive. set your golas first then build, its easdier and cheaper that way.