Your intake choice!!
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How many of you guys are using a short-ram vs CAI vs any alternatives i havent listed or know about? I know mugen makes the ram air type intake but wasnt sure how many used it. I guess i am more interested in your preference of sound via your intake choice. I had an injen CAI on my R and honestly it was louder then i would have liked it to be when VTEC would engage. I then changed back to my stock arm with a nice cone and prefered it so much more. Not big on poles so comments would be appreciated. I guess the sound is all based on personal preference, but i was just curious to hear everyone elsed opinions.
If you're worried about form over function.
Sound over performance...you should of put your money into something more worth-while. Like books on flow velocities and how it has effects on low-end vs top-end.
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Sound over performance...you should of put your money into something more worth-while. Like books on flow velocities and how it has effects on low-end vs top-end.
blah blah blah
I've heard CAI, at least for ITR's is the best way to go. I have a AEM CAI just because its CARB legal. I got poped once with a short ram and had a fake CARB # and cop still sent me to Smog Ref. Smog Ref ran the #'s and failed me, so I had to go buy something that was legal, so I could go back and pass.
Other wise I'd go with J's or Mugen intake.
Other wise I'd go with J's or Mugen intake.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by r1zen »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're worried about form over function.
Sound over performance...you should of put your money into something more worth-while. Like books on flow velocities and how it has effects on low-end vs top-end.
blah blah blah</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im not worried about anything, i was just trying to get and idea of what others thought. Thanks though
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Sound over performance...you should of put your money into something more worth-while. Like books on flow velocities and how it has effects on low-end vs top-end.
blah blah blah</TD></TR></TABLE>
Im not worried about anything, i was just trying to get and idea of what others thought. Thanks though
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Well i figured it would stand some chance since i didnt ask, "which is better, and icebox or coldair"
. This is based more on opinion though. I dont wanna know which is better. Sure your going to get a bit more out of the CAI but i was curious as to which everyone prefered and which sound they liked better. I myself dont really care for the cold air as much as i do the short-ram.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Well i figured it would stand some chance since i didnt ask, "which is better, and icebox or coldair"
. This is based more on opinion though. I dont wanna know which is better. Sure your going to get a bit more out of the CAI but i was curious as to which everyone prefered and which sound they liked better. I myself dont really care for the cold air as much as i do the short-ram.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bbasso »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">AEM CAI good enough for me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Intake of choice: ICEMAN!
Second choice would be an icebox type intake like Mugen, Comptech etc...
Nothing beats an ICEMAN! Test it yourself if you don't believe me... non-heat inducting material with the funnel ram filter setup and you got some good power increases...
The moral here is power over beauty...
Second choice would be an icebox type intake like Mugen, Comptech etc...
Nothing beats an ICEMAN! Test it yourself if you don't believe me... non-heat inducting material with the funnel ram filter setup and you got some good power increases...
The moral here is power over beauty...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by speedyR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Intake of choice: ICEMAN!
Second choice would be an icebox type intake like Mugen, Comptech etc...
Nothing beats an ICEMAN! Test it yourself if you don't believe me... non-heat inducting material with the funnel ram filter setup and you got some good power increases...
The moral here is power over beauty...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know someone that had ICEMAN on their car... (Type R) Wasnt that great ....
Second choice would be an icebox type intake like Mugen, Comptech etc...
Nothing beats an ICEMAN! Test it yourself if you don't believe me... non-heat inducting material with the funnel ram filter setup and you got some good power increases...
The moral here is power over beauty...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know someone that had ICEMAN on their car... (Type R) Wasnt that great ....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by speedyR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Intake of choice: ICEMAN!
Second choice would be an icebox type intake like Mugen, Comptech etc...
Nothing beats an ICEMAN! Test it yourself if you don't believe me... non-heat inducting material with the funnel ram filter setup and you got some good power increases...
The moral here is power over beauty...</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're butt-dyno needs fixing - please repair!
The battle of intakes has been beaten to death. Iceman is NOT one of the top contenders.
Second choice would be an icebox type intake like Mugen, Comptech etc...
Nothing beats an ICEMAN! Test it yourself if you don't believe me... non-heat inducting material with the funnel ram filter setup and you got some good power increases...
The moral here is power over beauty...</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're butt-dyno needs fixing - please repair!
The battle of intakes has been beaten to death. Iceman is NOT one of the top contenders.
i should have read the ENTIRE thread before posting, as this might have been mentioned somewhere up there. but i didnt bother reading on until i read that the AEM CAI is the "best" intake to use on ITR, off of what basis are you guys judging this, AEM's claims, personally dyno testing or just the loudness of vtec????
I personally have done a comparison between the ITR AEM CAI, STOCK intake with STOCK HONDA FILTER, and a J's racing with original J's racing intake...
read the details......
The results were as followed:
1. J's
2. STOCK W/STOCK FILTER
3. AEM CAI
yea yea i know you guys are thinking who the **** is this guy talking out of his *** since i dont post much anymore, but I did the test on my own car, using all three right after eachother on the same day, and doing 4 passes with each one.
The first session was done using just the stock ITR ecu for ALL 3 intakes, so there would be no speculation that the car was tuned to run a specific intake.
The j's gives more low end power compared to the AEM, not to mention the AEM CAI has a disgusting dip right before vtec, and the J's made more power allllll the way up to redline.
The Stock filter with stock intake also made more power compared to the AEM CAI, but not as much as the J's did. Again the stock did not have a dip like the AEM does before vtec, and the AEM barely did better than the stock one by about 1-2whp up top at about 8k rpm.
Then we put the p28 on the car, wired in the VAFC and started tuning, EACH intake to see what we can do.
Results were the same,
1. j's
2. stock
3. aem
Now i dont blame you if you dont know me, and dont believe me, but im sure most of you know who "SGT" is he also conducted the same test, with very similar results, i am not on my computer right now so i cannt post up dyno graphs of each to prove my words, but SGT has them up, and i believe i posted mine as well. As soon as my computer is workin i'd be glad to post the graphs up
EDIT: Disclaimer...not saying that the J's is the best intake on the market, as im sure there are better ones (mugen) but out of the 3 tested the J's was the best. I wish i had access to a mugen to test.
I personally have done a comparison between the ITR AEM CAI, STOCK intake with STOCK HONDA FILTER, and a J's racing with original J's racing intake...
read the details......
The results were as followed:
1. J's
2. STOCK W/STOCK FILTER
3. AEM CAI
yea yea i know you guys are thinking who the **** is this guy talking out of his *** since i dont post much anymore, but I did the test on my own car, using all three right after eachother on the same day, and doing 4 passes with each one.
The first session was done using just the stock ITR ecu for ALL 3 intakes, so there would be no speculation that the car was tuned to run a specific intake.
The j's gives more low end power compared to the AEM, not to mention the AEM CAI has a disgusting dip right before vtec, and the J's made more power allllll the way up to redline.
The Stock filter with stock intake also made more power compared to the AEM CAI, but not as much as the J's did. Again the stock did not have a dip like the AEM does before vtec, and the AEM barely did better than the stock one by about 1-2whp up top at about 8k rpm.
Then we put the p28 on the car, wired in the VAFC and started tuning, EACH intake to see what we can do.
Results were the same,
1. j's
2. stock
3. aem
Now i dont blame you if you dont know me, and dont believe me, but im sure most of you know who "SGT" is he also conducted the same test, with very similar results, i am not on my computer right now so i cannt post up dyno graphs of each to prove my words, but SGT has them up, and i believe i posted mine as well. As soon as my computer is workin i'd be glad to post the graphs up
EDIT: Disclaimer...not saying that the J's is the best intake on the market, as im sure there are better ones (mugen) but out of the 3 tested the J's was the best. I wish i had access to a mugen to test.
Hi!
Im so impresed wth the J'sracing cf intake...even though the price r abit expensive......As previously mention it give a much more better response and bottom end power.........Not to mention when the vtec kick in...........the sound r awesome................
Im so impresed wth the J'sracing cf intake...even though the price r abit expensive......As previously mention it give a much more better response and bottom end power.........Not to mention when the vtec kick in...........the sound r awesome................
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Chris N has had both, he should be able to comment on that
Chris N has had both, he should be able to comment on that
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bcrl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How about J's racing vs Mugen?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have not done any first had testing comparing the 2 together, but im willing to put my money on the mugen intake. If you search thru the archieved topics there are tons of dyno graphs, its amazing what that mugen piece does.
I have not done any first had testing comparing the 2 together, but im willing to put my money on the mugen intake. If you search thru the archieved topics there are tons of dyno graphs, its amazing what that mugen piece does.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugen Mike »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Chris N has had both, he should be able to comment on that
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J's was good, better than stock, close to AEM (much better sound than AEM, but that doesn't matter), but the mugen is MUCH better.
Chris N has had both, he should be able to comment on that
</TD></TR></TABLE>J's was good, better than stock, close to AEM (much better sound than AEM, but that doesn't matter), but the mugen is MUCH better.
I've had the AEM, ARC, Comptech Icebox, stock w/spoon filter, and the Mugen.
I thought there wasn't much difference until I got the Mugen. I can honestly say that it's by far the best from those listed above, for my needs.
Jason-
who'll take every bit of midrange/throttle response he can get out of his torqueless wonder.
I thought there wasn't much difference until I got the Mugen. I can honestly say that it's by far the best from those listed above, for my needs.
Jason-
who'll take every bit of midrange/throttle response he can get out of his torqueless wonder.


