I wanted to post pics to ensure it was a type r head, and now I'm worried that it may be a damaged b16 or type r head. the stamping is pr3-4, but that doesn't mean much.











Let me know what you guys think...........

 

That doesnt look too good. Was the packaging sufficient?? That thing should have been packed super tight with a lot of room for bumps and bruises. Hopefully its just the cam gear thats tweaked somewhat and can be replaced. Did you try to spin the cams to see if they rotate at all? I think the PR3 head is the correct head. If you want to try a different set of cam gears I can sell you my stock ones for like $15. Good luck

 

Never ever use "oops" for shipping a delicate item.

 

The cam gear that appears bent will rotate a little. the other one doesn't turn. any other comments.......

 

upon close inspection, two of the "spokes" on the bent cam gear are cracked. I'm only wondering if this would affect my camshaft at all . UPS gets the gigantic .

 

open the cam caps and take a look and see what else happened. Shouldnt take more than 5 min to open them up, start from the cam gear and work inward look for fractures cracks etc etc on the cam, where the cam gear bolts up, and check the casting, and the cam caps themselves to see if anything appears bent/broken etc.

 

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Looks like a b16 head I got a couple years ago through ups. They dropped the first box it was in so much, that they left it at the ups center in a new box with no packing, and I had to go pick it up. Every sensor was broken, both cam gears were bent, and the bottom surface was gouged from falling out of the box. BIG thumbs down, over and over and over.

The ups center that shipped it lost the shipping information, and they couldnt prove that it was insured, so they took my head and didnt give me any $$$ at all. When I called to see what was going to happen, they refused to talk to me because I wasnt the sender. I tried to contact the sender, but he disappeared. Retarded ups probably sent him back the head and gave him the $100 they garauntee every package for.

 

can anyone comment on whether or not it is even a type r head? it doesn't have the green paint on the side...........All i need to find out is that I have an f'ed b16 head w/ a broken cam and cam gear that I paid toooo much money for......

 

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I believe b16 heads have single valve springs on the exhaust valves. . .

 

Yea UPS jacked up a B18C5 block I ordered online a few years back too. I try not to use them if at all possible

 

yeah, i'll NEVER get soemthing shipped by UPS again. I'm going to find out the damage today at an acura dealership. I'm hoping just the cam gear is f'ed (it's definitely screwed), and hope that the cam itself is not damaged.... I claimed $450 USD on the head which should hopefully be enough for a new cam gear and cam if needed.


Can anyone tell from the pics whether it's a b18c5 head?

 

Ive been having alot of probs with UPS lately, i started sending everything out Fed Ex now, and they get a , they do a great job for me soo far

 

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same here....i sent out an stock ITR exhaust and when the guy got it, it was bent on the tip and the packaging had opened up

 

ok so why you guys all about blaming ups, maybe it was the seller??? if he packed it good enough it should have been able to withstand it....seller

 

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The ITR head uses dual valve springs on the ext. side, so check for that. That should be a good indicator to wheather or not the head you got is a ITR head or a b16 head. Good luck!!

 

ups is pure crap! i sent a turbo to a guy packed super good with blocks of foam, peanuts, and bubble wrap in a brand new box with nylon strapping bands on it. they buyer got the pacakge with holes and tears in the box, nylon strapping bands where broken off. the turbo was okay but just goes to show you what respect they have for there customers.

anyhow, to me it just looks like a bent cam gear. hopefully everything works out and do what the others have suggested!

 

Be very careful of the cams! They may have tiny fractures which will quickly lead to big breaks, dropped valves, etc.

Have the cams Magnafluxed for cracks! X-raying might be nice too, but not commonly available.

John

 

i have had nothing but problems with UPS, from all the things that i have sent i would say that Priority mail via USPS is my favorite

 

Well, there are dual valve springs on the exhaust side of the head, so at least i don't have to worry about having the wrong head. I'm gonna phone up ups and see what they have to say regarding a claim. I was going to take the head to an acura dealer today, but if none of the parts should be removed then i might as well wait. thanks for the info guys!

 

The way i see it they should be able to kick the thing to your house and not get damaged if its packaged right.

A removeable part does not say much in determining what type of head it is.

Look at the castings, ITR heads are ported a bit from the factory, it should have very little casting imperfections and look like there was a little grinding done in there. Besides that do your research, Google can answer all of the cast/code questions u can throw at it

 

just like my icon

 

That's why we (and Honda) don't ship heads with the VTEC mechanism and the water tube installed, or the camshafts. If it's sticking out from the main casting, it'll be broken off and it's not UPS's fault. It's the responsibility of the person who packed it.
You have to pack heads tight as hell in boxes that aren't larger than 24x12x12. If the box is larger, the head will move when the box gets tossed around and anything sticking out is history...

 

Ouch....

 

Didnt read everything but if someone has mentioned: Take one of the cams out because you have valve to valve interference if you rotate one cam and that same cylinders exhaust or intake valves are open then you will have interference between each other. Just some helpful info if you are trying to figure out why one cam will rotate and the other wont.