i searched and couldnt find anything that would answer my question. so here goes, with this ecu, would the motor run too rich or too lean? it is the single over head cam ZC that does come with the vtec. so basically a d16z6 came from a 92-95 civic hatch. i've seen it rated at 130-140 hp but i was wondering when i do this swap can this ecu be fine? or would i end up spitting flames because i have straight pipes to an n1? i was also thinking about getting the apexi svafc to control the vtec and the air/fuel ratio. any ideas how this would run being that the motor was in good shape with this ecu? anyone have any experience with this motor ecu setup? thanks

chris


Modified by celtic at 11:32 PM 2/17/2004

 

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Modified by celtic at 11:33 PM 2/17/2004

 

First off, they aren't rated at 130-140, its rated lower than the DOHC ZC, And A PM7 is not going to work right because it is not set up to activate your Vtec. For fuel maps it may not be too bad, but on a DOHC ZC its dead on perfect. If you are going to chip this for Vtec you are better off doing it with a less expensive ECU. PM7 are hard to find and pricey. Do the mods of a PM6 or PG7 or better yet find the right ecu for your app. (no I don't know exactly which one is the right one.) Ran a DOHC ZC for 2.5 years, now running a B16A1.

 

yes BUT, like i saidn in my post. i would be running a vtec controller also.
and yes the zc vtec has more power then dohc zc.


Modified by celtic at 11:33 PM 2/17/2004

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by virginia_dude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First off, they aren't rated at 130-140, its rated lower than the DOHC ZC, And A PM7 is not going to work right because it is not set up to activate your Vtec. For fuel maps it may not be too bad, but on a DOHC ZC its dead on perfect. If you are going to chip this for Vtec you are better off doing it with a less expensive ECU. PM7 are hard to find and pricey. Do the mods of a PM6 or PG7 or better yet find the right ecu for your app. (no I don't know exactly which one is the right one.) Ran a DOHC ZC for 2.5 years, now running a B16A1.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats wierd, I thought the D16Z6 was rated at 128...hmm maybe im wrong whats a non-vtec sohc zc rated at anywho? Is it more or less than an A6?

In response to the ecu I think the P28 might do it justice.

 

i just got done doing my swap in my 1990 crx si i used the stock ecu and the stock wiring harness!!! if you have anymore questions aks !!!!

 

First off newb. I mean Celtic, where are these motors rated?! If you're talking a SOHC ZC with a VTEC D16z6 head, it's not going to be a factory engine so how can it be "rated" anything?

Second off, you're signature has a quote of someone making a joke about learning English... As if you support that and find that funny that someone would say that to someone. Well guess what buddy, YOU NEED TO LEARN IT TOO! That was some of the most murdered typing I've seen. So you can take "the vtec" and turn your "straight pipes to an a n1" sideways and shove them both up your ***.

If you have a d16z6 say it, don't say SOHC ZC.

Isn't a PM7 a OBD0 Integra ECU?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jedubz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First off newb. I mean Celtic, where are these motors rated?! If you're talking a SOHC ZC with a VTEC D16z6 head, it's not going to be a factory engine so how can it be "rated" anything?

Second off, you're signature has a quote of someone making a joke about learning English... As if you support that and find that funny that someone would say that to someone. Well guess what buddy, YOU NEED TO LEARN IT TOO! That was some of the most murdered typing I've seen. So you can take "the vtec" and turn your "straight pipes to an a n1" sideways and shove them both up your ***.

If you have a d16z6 say it, don't say SOHC ZC.

Isn't a PM7 a OBD0 Integra ECU?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Calm down bro, geeeze. Cut the guy some slack. He told you its a sohc zc vtec, I didnt know that they existed, but I guess they do. As for you callin him a newb, I wouldnt do that, as for him talkin crap about learnin english, thats childish of him dont drop to his level by not givin straight answers...sheesh.

 

jeez, you guys must be dumb.
check these places out. SOHC ZC VTEC, stock motor, besides, i have this motor sitting in my shed
http://www.enginereplacement.c...e.htm
http://performancedirect.net/page18.html
http://cnsmotors.com/honda.htm
http://public.srce.hr/~nvirag/vtec2.html

sigh..i come here for advice on ecu, get bashed by newbies who comment on motors they dont even know exist.
can i please get someone to comment on something they know about. unlike half the people who replied to my original post? thanks wish the newbies didnt comment. besides the cam in a zc vtec is more aggressive then a d16z6. so 'stfu'!

 

excuse me, i meant ***PG7*** ecu. and yes the ZC does exist in sohc form with vtec, maybe you should get it right "newb"

 

bump for anyone with any knowledge besides the queer who posted earlier?

 

I love being called a newbie. Especially since I'm one of those kids who has shops do everything for me. Not. So in your childish 15 year old attempt to make me fee stupid for being a "queer" who builds and swaps LS/VTECS in his garage, I really could care less. I'm trying to help you but you suck at typing and leave out tons of information.

Anyways teh PG7 ECU is an Integra d16a1 ECU. It isn't VTEC. It will not suppor the "two stage" Hot/Cold maps.

I still don't understand because in your attempt to make me look stupid you still have given us jack **** for information. Is your motor a d16z6 or not? Or better yet, what D-series VTEC motor do you have?!

 

Well, NO ZC I have ever seen specs on trumps the DOHC, The SOHC V-tech may come close but its still less. The SOHC ZC is beter than the USDM Si motor but less than the SOHC ZC Vtech. No stock D series engine has higher rated power.

Building it, then well you are comparing apples to oranges. But stock The DOHC was king of the D series hill.

 

Most SOHC ZC VTEC run single wire 02 sensors so the swap CAN WORK WITH PG7 88-89 integ ECU-but it'll run like caca on below 4K.
Best to run the full OBD-1 conversion and pick up a JDM P70, P71 or P08 ECU
OR convert to heated 02 sensor and run USDM P28

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jedubz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love being called a newbie. Especially since I'm one of those kids who has shops do everything for me. Not. So in your childish 15 year old attempt to make me fee stupid for being a "queer" who builds and swaps LS/VTECS in his garage, I really could care less. I'm trying to help you but you suck at typing and leave out tons of information.

Anyways teh PG7 ECU is an Integra d16a1 ECU. It isn't VTEC. It will not suppor the "two stage" Hot/Cold maps.

I still don't understand because in your attempt to make me look stupid you still have given us jack **** for information. Is your motor a d16z6 or not? Or better yet, what D-series VTEC motor do you have?!

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My bad I was wrong about this guy celtic!!!BTW one of your sites is a joke check this out ----D16A Eco 1997cc SOHC VTEC-E, 120 ks-----------
Kick his *** Seabass!!!!!!!

 

there is a vtec-e motor by the way...

and i found the answer i was looking for

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HumanResource &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Most SOHC ZC VTEC run single wire 02 sensors so the swap CAN WORK WITH PG7 88-89 integ ECU-but it'll run like caca on below 4K.
Best to run the full OBD-1 conversion and pick up a JDM P70, P71 or P08 ECU
OR convert to heated 02 sensor and run USDM P28</TD></TR></TABLE>

thank you.

 

How come everyone is giving this guy a hard time, he just asked a simple question. Now I can tell you I've been running the pg7 on my d15b vtec for about 2 years. Fuel pressure set at 38psi and it runs great. As for the zc-vtec, it does exist but it just the same exact motor as the d16z6. It just says zc on the block.

 

wow is that right? and you went through all the trouble to make an account just to tell us that? hmm alright celtic, what a retard

 

lol. you're both tools. stupid newbies.

 

Yeah we're such a bunch of newbs... Damn all us newbs and our answering of questions.

 

haha queef.