This is my first post I have a 94 Accord EX I did a search but really couldn't find what I was looking for. I want to either get my F22 rebuilt and turbo it or get an H22 and go from there. What dose everyone think would be a better setup and how much power would I be able to get from my F22.

 

u suck at searching...j/k....but there is ALWAYS an active post on this topic......if u build and turbo the F22 ull get more power than the H22.........but building the F22 is gonna cost alot, as many parts need to be special order.....this is an age old debate, equalling that of the meaning of life.....just go what u really want, and be origional

 

This is your first post? NO WAY! j/k
I was thinking the same thing a while ago but from a financial stand point it would be better if you were to just get an h22. Then maybe later down the road turbocharge it. If you have 145 hp and 147 lb ft with an f22b1 add a turbo you have what realistically gone to somewhere in the vicinity of 200-220 hp and the same for torque. (If all aftermarket parts) Where as the h22 starts off with 200hp and 156 lb ft and goes from there when turbo'd. Every application is going to be different for everyone. I wanted to do the junkyard turbo swap but Ive decided against it mainly because I dont have another vehicle to depend on if my f22b1 blows. So you need to ask yourself what exactly do you want from your car? What exactly do you want to do with it? And of course how much do you want to spend on it? Once you get these questions answered then you will know which motor you really want. I hope this helps.

 

thanks ultimatley anything I get I want to turbo it right now I live in Japan and I drive a 180sx so I don't want to go back to a N/A motor again. I've had my Accord since 97 but haven't driving it since 2000, so I'm thinking h22 then turbo, but I want to hear what peoples though were on both advantages and disadvantages you know

 

definately get the h22, and either build it, or run a small turbo

 

forced induction=tourque and tourque wins races...

 

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school buses have thousands of lbs of tq, how many races do they win,

 

turbo the F. in your heart you know its the right choice.

 

if you doing a swap and then a turbo, i would recommend to build the h23 and put boost on it instead of h22 for alot of reasons.

if you gonna stick with single overhead cam, the f series is perfectly fine too

N/A stock h22a on accord is not exactly that fast

 

N/A stock f22 is a hell of alot slower than a N/A stock h22! No matter how you look at it its going to be slower! But the h23 wouldnt be a bad idea either considering KilL3r_B has an obd1 car he could go that route too. My car is obd2 and its staying obd2 so Id probably opt for the h22, but thats just me.

 

i was told on homemadeturbo.com that ALL f22 blocks have steel sleeves, being so they can handle quite a bit of boost on stock internals for someone was running 15 psi on stock internals safely no doubt.. i'd say turbo.. you have added the power without an engine swap and you have a turbo and hopefully a loud *** bov, and the best part is you'll get the props for doing so.

 

If you run 15 psi on a stock f22 block you are just asking for trouble.

 

Thanks for replying to my trend, so everyone is saying if I want to go turbo then either the H23 or F22 would be the choice instend of the H22, how much power are you all getting for a boosted F22 my goal is for 250-300 HP to the wheels That's all I need

 

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LOL.

 

I just got a h22 in my accord. I was in the same position you are in about a couple months ago. I was gonna boost my f22, but then decided not to bc of reliability. Just go the h22 if daily driven. I think it is a way better feeling having all motor with vtec that is as stong as a turbo spooling. I know they hate when my vtec takes control over there spool.

 

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your kidding right.

coming into boost is a bit stronger transition into power than your vtec.... maybe on some little pesky t25 unit but I doubt that highly with per say the t3/60-1 unit I run.

 

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I'm spooling hard by 3k rpm... where does VTEC kick in again? oh yeah, 3 car lengths behind me

 

its sad how ppl think VTEC is god... and that guy thinks VTEC is better over boost? ROFL thats the best noob thing i've heard in a while. haha

 

its cheaper to turbo ur stock F22, and run low boost, u also have the option of using hondata for tuning. a turbo F22/F23 will blow by almost ne NA honda, and i mean that! never came up to a stang that could take me, and yes, thats a V8 stang. it's a direct bolt on, no swapping anything.

 

at 17psi an F22's rings fail but thats just about it, rest of the block seems unphased. Slap some nice pistons and rods into the F( do all other thing like head bolts and bearings) and youll be happy.

 

So you are saying your boosted f22 have beaten v8 mustang?

 

I have never seen or witnessed it and my car has never seen track time. Im not even sure on a stock 5.0/4.6 quarter mile times but unless the Mustang is in the mid 14's then the F22 at 7psi has a chance(all dependent on drivers of course), and i said chance, not win.

 

You're not planning on doing the junkyard (mitsubishi eclipse turbo manifold) are you? Because I've been told that the f22b1 wont accept that manifold because of the exhaust ports. I noticed you have a 94 EX so I was just throwing that out there. And oh yeah, I eat mustangs up all day with my stock f22. hahahahahahaha j/k

 

the DSM manifold only fits the F22a's and H23/JDM F22B. Not the F23 or F22B1/2

 

naw not a do-it yourself turbo kit I'll probaly buy one ready made

Where can I go to buy rods and pistons when I do my engine rebuild or what do you guys suggest