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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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im currently running a y8 head and z6 block with a y8 headgasket which is pretty thin. i dont know what my compression is but i know i should lower it if im going turbo. are there aftermarket headgaskets that are thick? and how thick should i go to lower the compression to fit my turbo? its going to be garret t3.
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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 03:41 PM
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Here you go bud.

http://www.knology.net/~jediklc/D.htm
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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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SCE makes a d series .062 im useing it on my stock a6 block and head and i come out to a 8.85 cr and im going with about 9 psi so im in the gold.
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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHCV-TechRider &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here you go bud.

http://www.knology.net/~jediklc/D.htm</TD></TR></TABLE>


wow sweet site! thanks man!!! im at 9.4:1. how low should i lower it to so that turbo will love it? about how thick of a gasket would i need?


where can i get a SCE headgasket?
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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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im using a cometic...i like it and it comes in many different thicknesses...got mine at nipponpower.com
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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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1. you don't need to lower your compression

2. turbos "like" high compression motors
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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by infinatenexus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

2. turbos "like" high compression motors</TD></TR></TABLE>


er??
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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 06:50 PM
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the higher your compression the less lag yo have. People use lower compression to compensate for a lack of tuning.
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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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in other words... lazy?
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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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Hes right. High compression and turbo works great. You just better be ready to really feed that baby and tune her well.
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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crashtest Sonny &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in other words... lazy?</TD></TR></TABLE>

that, and scared
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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by infinatenexus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the higher your compression the less lag yo have. People use lower compression to compensate for a lack of tuning. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Not only that but you wont be a dog in the lower rpms and lowering the comp is just taking away power that you have to make up for with more boost. And that whole "tuning" thing.
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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 07:24 PM
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ahhhhhh i c i c. all i read about is how much people lower their compression. so i think lowering the compression will be better for turbo.
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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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It simply allows for a larger margin of error. Running a higher static CR lets you get the same power with less boost than a low static CR running more boost. Just a very general figure off the top of my head, I read that a 9:1CR motor running 10psi makes the same power as a 10:1CR motor running 7psi. They both equaled the same effective compression(static + boost). Plus the 10:1 has a broader powerband.
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Your Cr should be good enough for Turbo 9.1 or 9.4 is right on.
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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sweet! tahts some good news for me!
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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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there's less of a chance of detonation with a lower compression motor...that's why people are quick to say "lower your compression when doing turbo". it really isn't that a higher comp motor will blow up into flames, its a little saftey thing.

lowering compression lowers power...

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Old Feb 12, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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thanks. i guess ill be leaving my compression alone then. what kind of power would i be expecting to get? would raising the psi be any safe? or its better of changing the internals?
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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 06:24 PM
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All this is true but do any of you have or know how much is involved in tuneing a high compression turbo motor??????
Unless you have full acess to a dyno and have tuned manycars and have an awsome engine managment setup i would deff stay with the low compression.

low compression is also less stress on your motor why strain your motor when you can let your turbo (which is 1/4 the cost of your motor) do all the work for you?

high compression is very unreliable and is deff the route that should be taken for a everyday driver imo.

bottom line even experienced engine tuners have trouble tuneing and maintaining high compression turbo setups its deff not a easy route to take unless you have a ton of forced induction experience.
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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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Dude.. the guy is at 9.4-1... thats hardly "high compression"
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Old Feb 13, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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i never said he was
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 12:44 AM
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so is that consider normal comp? leave it or lower it? my mechanic keep telling me to lower it to about 8.4:1.
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 03:53 AM
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find a new mechanic
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Old Feb 14, 2004 | 04:58 AM
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so whats the reason most factory turbo cars have 8.4 or below compression?

btw, if you're going t3, you'll probably get some lag, so the 9.4:1 cr will help you out when you're not in boost.

but if you want to be safe, get a cometic hp gasket.
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