My buddy has a 1995 honda accord LX with a h22a1 attatched to a M2f4 tranny. i don't know if that is a prelude tranny but i believe it is. anyway. everytime i put a accord axle in, it hyperextends and obviously breaks. any experience or insight on this matter would be helpful. thank you.

 

are you POSITIVE you are running 1994-1997 accord axles and intermediate shaft?

Axles from a 1993 will NOT work, they are too short and they do exactly as you describe.

 

which side axle are you busting, and are both wayy too short or way too long or just one side?

 

prelude axles are a little bit longer than accord ones.

 

was the car originally an auto?

 

90-903 axles are shorter than 94-97 accord ones which are shorter than lude ones.
if you are lowered, using the right mounts and the engine is sitting properly in the bay the most likely problem will be binding from the axles being a bit too long.
i would not be surprised if the car WAS an auto and the engine is sitting crooked.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by v4lu3s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">90-903 axles are shorter than 94-97 accord ones which are shorter than lude ones.
if you are lowered, using the right mounts and the engine is sitting properly in the bay the most likely problem will be binding from the axles being a bit too long.
i would not be surprised if the car WAS an auto and the engine is sitting crooked.</TD></TR></TABLE>


did you guys use the right mounts??

good catch f22a and v4lu3s, I didnt think of that.

 

is he using a 5spd accord tranny mount and 5spd accord tranny bracket?

 

he should be using the 5spd accord transmission mount and the 5spd accord transmission bracket and a 5spd rear mount.

 

i was wondering . is it possible to use the prelude intermediate shaft with the accord axles ?!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redxalien &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was wondering . is it possible to use the prelude intermediate shaft with the accord axles ?!</TD></TR></TABLE>

nope

 

it is usable with a combination of accord and prelude axles, but definately not worth the trouble.

 

in my 95 accord ex i have the h22a with the prelude tranny...i am using the accord drivers side axle...the intermediates were the same so i just used the prelude one and the passenger side one is a prelude one that came with the swap...sounds crazy but it works for me

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sponger1054 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in my 95 accord ex i have the h22a with the prelude tranny...i am using the accord drivers side axle...the intermediates were the same so i just used the prelude one and the passenger side one is a prelude one that came with the swap...sounds crazy but it works for me</TD></TR></TABLE>

sounds likeyou got an accord swap.
if teh intermediate shaft is the same it wouuld be an accord one, so i suspect you uare using all accord axles.

 

nope...defaly using the prelude one on the passenger side...maybe we used the prelude intermediate...either way ive got a mixed up set up ....but it works fine

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by f22a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he should be using the 5spd accord transmission mount and the 5spd accord transmission bracket and a 5spd rear mount.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i thought the tranny mounts on the 5th gens are the same for the manual and automatic, just the mount bracket?

 

bump??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sponger1054 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nope...defaly using the prelude one on the passenger side...maybe we used the prelude intermediate...either way ive got a mixed up set up ....but it works fine</TD></TR></TABLE>
if the intermediate shaft has a male end it is from a lude, female end is from an accord.
of the 2 swaps i ahve bought oen was from an accord and the other from a lude.

50806-SV4-981 is teh mount part # for an automatic 1995 accord.
50806-SV4-000 is the part # for a 5 spd mount for a 1995 accord.
they are diff as well as teh braket being a diff part # too from what i know.

 

Those of you who have a 6th gen with a h22 in your car. What axles did ya'll use? I plan on getting a manual swap also. Does the stock accord axles work (car originally an auto)? Or do I need to use h22 axles?

 

I am reviving this from the archive because I am having a similar issue. I have a 95 accord wagon with the f22b1 mated to a prelude tranny. 2 months ago I did the auto to manny swap and used the lude trans because I bought an h22 w/trans and my auto went out on me but I didn't have the cash to do the swap and conversion at the same time. I checked all the write ups before hand and was told to use the accord axles and was even told they are intrechangeable but withing the past 3 weeks I have torn up 3 passanger side axles while making parking lot manouvers. The most recent was brand new and lasted less then 2 hours on the car. Is this because I should be running the lude passenger side axle. I changed none of my motor mounts and I do believe the shop put an accord 5 spd tranny bracket on her. What's the deal?

 

you need a 5spd rear motor mount.

also you need to make sure you engine isnt sitting crooked. mine was after the tranny conversion and i had to drill a new mounting hole higher up on the tranny mount bracket to raise the passenger side of the motor up a bit to make it level. or you can cut the entire bracket off the frame and weld in a 5spd one.

if the shop put in an accord 5spd tranny bracket that means they cut off the auto one and welded the 5spd one on.. are you sure they did that? and not just put on the 5spd mount on to the auto mount bracket.

 

The motor isn't sitting crooked at all. I spoke with the shop guy and he brought up an interesting issue. He said if the mount was the issue then the other mounts would not be aligned properly or pulling the motor in one direction. which is not the case in my situation. He suggested that I check the dimensions of the prelude and accord axles to see if the lude axle is indeed longer. I neglected to mention the most recent axle I put on was a brand new one and while reversing with the wheel cut 100% to the right I heard a clunk. I checked the boot by the trans and it was twisted as if it's been hyperextended. Which is why I'm trying to explore this longer axle issue. Anybody know the dimensions of the 2 axles (accord 5spd passenger vs. prelude 5spd passenger)?

 

well myself and almost all of the other ppl that have done the 5spd change over have the crooked engine issue. its hardly noticable to the naked eye. before i fixed it and the motor was still sitting a bit askewed, all the other mounts were aligned properly and wasnt pulling the motor in one direction.

alot of people that have done the tranny conversion have had axle problems if they didnt use the 5spd rear mount and/or 5spd tranny mount bracket.

can you tell if they did cut the old auto bracket and welded the 5spd on the frame? have you looked under you car and see if they put in a 5spd rear mount or used the auto one?

 

I do know they used the 5spd tranny mount bracket and it had to be welded however I did not change any motor mounts. So you believe it's the "engine mount" issue as opposed to the "lude axle" issue? Shall I wait until I have the h22 dropped in to address engine mount issue? (which should be within the next month) instead of trying to get everything to work with the f22 which is what I have now?

I guess what I'm trying to say is you "had" the same problem but changing the rear mount to a 5spd mount fixed it right?

 

Bump for solution to shattering axle issue