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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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as the topic says.. It has been bogging like crazy when it was running. and at wot sometimes it would feel like It was only running off of 2 cylinders. also when it was running I would start it and it would shake at a super low rpm. but then when I gassed it it would start to run normal. I have checked for spark and fuel and theres both. I checked to see if the injector I have an msd digital 6 plus.. and the led is not acting normal. could that be the problem? but the wierd thing is... when I ground out the plug wire it sparks. so I am confused. help meeeee.

its a b16 in a cx hatch. (93)

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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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You need 3 things to start a car; spark, fuel, and air.

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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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I aint got no intake. theres plenny of air.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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Just try putting in some new plugs. if u try this post the results.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 10:01 PM
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whens the last time u changed ur cap and rotor?

also, have u changed the plug wires recently? make sure that they are in the correct order...sounds like theres a misfire in cylinders....

changing the plugs may be a good idea if none of these work, but its definitely an ignition problem.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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check your timing also. make that another factor.
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 12:07 AM
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check your cam timing
check your ignition timing
check for codes
tune up your ignition system
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 06:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gabe_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You need 3 things to start a car; spark, fuel, and air.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You should add compression to that list, even if it is kinda related to the air and fuel parts.
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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checked the cam timing
checked the blelt
checked the alternator pulley
changed the injectors and cap and rotor and wires.
it threw a fuel system malfunction code a day before the car died. and it died at idle. that should help some.
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nigel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I aint got no intake. theres plenny of air.</TD></TR></TABLE>

?????????????????????????????????????? ok, first off, learn your grammar. but the reason i put all those question marks in is because DO YOU HAVE A FILTER??? sorry if i missed somethin, but if you have no intake or filter and are just sucking in air through the TB then yea, that's the reason your engine is running like ****.
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lke2drvgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

?????????????????????????????????????? ok, first off, learn your grammar. but the reason i put all those question marks in is because DO YOU HAVE A FILTER??? sorry if i missed somethin, but if you have no intake or filter and are just sucking in air through the TB then yea, that's the reason your engine is running like ****. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually it wont make a difference...at all.
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Default Re: I have spark and fuel. but it wont start. (nigel)

Swap Distributors with a friend...I bet it runs good.
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Actually it wont make a difference...at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so if i got dust or dirt in my motor it wouldn't matter?
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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I would appreciate it if you didn't reply at all anymore to this post. you are not contributing. I no how 2 spellld, just, fine. I put another distributor on and it would start but, it would not idle. any7 ideas?
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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I just got it started and held it at like 4000 and it threw code 14. what the hell is that ****.???
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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Code 14 is probably IACV (idle air control valve). Check to see if the socket is plugged in. If it is, then check for continuity on the wires.
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IN VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Code 14 is probably IACV (idle air control valve). Check to see if the socket is plugged in. If it is, then check for continuity on the wires.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If your throwing this code, your car won't stay running by itself unless u give it gas.

Also check to make sure u didn't mix it up with another plug, if u had the harness off.
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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well I found what it was. for some reason my friend unplugged that wire, and then I put on his distribtor and thats why it started. so now I need to go to kragen and abuse my warratee and get another distributor. I have warranteed 5 already in the past 6 months.
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 06:23 PM
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damn im good
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 12:39 AM
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you know whats insane tho! it will spark with the old distributor setup pretty brightly too. so my guess is one of the sensors is jacked in that dist. that is pretty wierd. anyone ever hear od that?
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 12:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nigel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you know whats insane tho! it will spark with the old distributor setup pretty brightly too. so my guess is one of the sensors is jacked in that dist. that is pretty wierd. anyone ever hear od that?
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Yup. I've had it happen plenty of times. If u have to rebuild yours it is really easy and u can rebuild it with all the guts from a single cam dizzy, which is easier to find than a dohc one.
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Old Feb 2, 2004 | 01:56 AM
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start the motor
start by pull out the #1 plug wire,
see if the motor changes tone,
go to the next plug wire and do the same, do all four,
if you pull a plug wire and the motor doesnt change tone or start to shake theres a problem in that cylinder.
check for fuel spark and compession in that hole.
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