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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 03:05 PM
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ummm i just bought my ek hatch and i want to do an oil change, i heard that hondas have crush gaskets that have to be used new with each oil change for the drain plug, i know for my talon i could just put my plug back in and i didnt need a crush washer or something

do i need it for the honda and are they only available at teh dealer?
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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i don't use a crush washer when i change my oil, jus screw the plug back in, mine doesn't leak.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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I havent changed mine yet, just change it when it starts looking bad.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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yeh, the honda plug gasket crushes when u torque them. i just use a regular 14mm cooper instead..but they are pretty cheap anyways.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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never used a washer on mine and havent had a leak yet
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 03:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMlifestyle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">never used a washer on mine and havent had a leak yet</TD></TR></TABLE>

You always want to use a washer otherwise your drain plug is more prone to getting stripped like you mom on a Saturday night.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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guess i better start too.. ugh, my moms too old to be strippin'


learn somethin new every day... and get grossed out too.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 03:47 PM
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I was told that Honda's used crush gaskets for the oil pan, not the drain plug.

I've been changing my own oil for 5 years, never once had a leak from the plug.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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Never used one here, never had a problem! Wait? are we talking about condoms?
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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if you buy honda oem filters(highly suggested) they will most of the time just give the washer to you for free. if not they are only like fifteen cents.
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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for all you lazy asses just flip the washer or if you really want to get nitty gritty just sand it down...f it better than not having one..
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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so can i just keep reusing the same one, it seems like a pain to drive 25 min just for a 15 cent piece
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Old Jan 30, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BeerBaron105 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ummm i just bought my ek hatch and i want to do an oil change, i heard that hondas have crush gaskets that have to be used new with each oil change for the drain plug, i know for my talon i could just put my plug back in and i didnt need a crush washer or something

do i need it for the honda and are they only available at teh dealer?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Per Honda instructions, any aluminum crush washer needs to be replaced....Its not all about the fluid leaking but also the drain plug staying put....the more you re-use them the bigger chance they could crack and more likely you'll be over-tightening the drain plug...And on the newer engines that means replacing an aluminum oil pan. Its .36 for piece of mind...
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 03:31 AM
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are these available at any parts store or are they dealer item only?
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 06:38 AM
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I have used the same washer that came with the car until I bought a Honda filter and it came with a new washer...doesnt make a diff I have noticed...as long as you tighten it correctly it will be fine...
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 06:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BeerBaron105 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so can i just keep reusing the same one, it seems like a pain to drive 25 min just for a 15 cent piece</TD></TR></TABLE>

For the cost, just replace it. Instead of driving 25 minutes for a 15 cent piece, go crazy and drive 25 minutes and get a dollars worth. Better yet, go absolutely nuts and get 2 or 3 dollars worth.

If you're changing your own oil, it makes sense to buy in bulk, cuz yer gonna need the stuff anyway. Case or 3 of oil, case of filters, a jar full of washers etc.

You won't have to re-up everytime you need to change your oil.

I'm currently experimenting with a product called "Sure Drain" by Fram. You replace your stock DP with theirs, which has an actuator valve in it. When you want to change your oil, you screw on a short length of hose that comes with the kit, it opens the valve and out comes your old oil into the jug you've supplied. So far I love it; it's quicker and there are no tools needed.

It's 12 bucks at Walmart and the one for a D16 oil pan is the SD-2, since there are 5 different ones, I believe. Just make sure you run the car first b/c hot oil is far less viscous than cold oil and the drain time will be reduced significantly.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 06:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BeerBaron105 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are these available at any parts store or are they dealer item only?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You should be able to get them anywhere. I paid a dollar for a bag of 20 at Auto Boyz or Pep Zone, which I think was the wrong price, but I didn't argue.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 07:18 AM
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Never done that before. Its prolly just something shops tell you to do to sqeeze and few more bucks out of you.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 07:20 AM
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dealerships tell you to use them so they can make extra money when i was at honda i never told the people that bought oil filters that they needed you should be fine with out one
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 08:08 AM
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yeah it's just a regular washer anyways so you don't overtighten the drain plug and strip the pan out. spec 32 foot lb's
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 08:17 AM
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ITS FREE FROM HONDA IF YOU PURCHASE AN OIL FILTER........
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