My Allignment Printout, Should I Be Worried?
Hello again. I recently installed my Kosei K-1's (day before yesterday) and took the car in for an allignment yesterday. The printout did not leave me with a very good feeling. I am lowered on a Eibach Prokits and have Koni Yellows set at the stock perch. My question is that do you feel I will need a camber kit or should I just religiously rotate my tires (Potenza RE730's). The reason is that I really cannot afford to have to pay for more tires due to premature excessive inner-tire wear. Here are the results....
<U>Left Front</U>
Camber: Specified Range= -1.2-0.8 Before= -1.7 Actual(after)= -1.8
Caster: Specified Range= 0.2-2.2 Before= 1.0 Actual= 1.0
Toe: Specified Range= -1.0mm-1.0mm Before= -2.0 Actual= -0.4
<U>Right Front</U>
Camber: Before= -1.4 Actual= -1.5
Caster: Before= 1.3 Actual= 1.3
Toe: Before= 0.7mm Actual= 0.4mm
<U>Left Rear</U>
Camber: Specified Range= -2.0-0.0 Before= -1.6 Actual= -1.7
Toe: Specified Range= 0.5mm-2.0mm Before= 4.2mm Actual= 0.9mm
<U>Right Rear</U>
Camber: Before= -1.5 Actual= -1.6
Toe: Before= 3.3mm Actual= 0.9mm
For Front:
Cross Camber: Actual= -0.3 Before= -0.3
Cross Caster: Actual= -0.3 Before= -0.3
Total Toe: Actual= -0.1mm Before= -1.3mm
(Range for Total Toe= -2.0mm-2.0mm)
<U>Rear</U>
Total Toe: Specified Range= 1.0mm-4.1mm Before= 7.5mm Actual= 1.8mm
Thrust Angle: Before= 0.04 Actual= 0.00
Whew, sorry for the large table. I just want to give you guys all the info I can. I had the allignment done by Acura and I believe I put all the info that came on the printout. My main concern is the camber on the left front which is -1.8 as opposed to the right front which is -1.5. If you guys suggest that I should get a camber kit then I will pick one up, but I was kinda hoping I dont need one as this is one of the reasons I got the Prokit. Everyone said that I didnt need a camber kit for the Prokit and I believe Eibach says the same thing.
Well, any and all information you can give me is GREATELY APPRECIATED. Thanks for taking the time to read my numerical novel
George
[Modified by KANJI, 8:20 PM 10/4/2001]
[Modified by KANJI, 8:21 PM 10/4/2001]
<U>Left Front</U>
Camber: Specified Range= -1.2-0.8 Before= -1.7 Actual(after)= -1.8
Caster: Specified Range= 0.2-2.2 Before= 1.0 Actual= 1.0
Toe: Specified Range= -1.0mm-1.0mm Before= -2.0 Actual= -0.4
<U>Right Front</U>
Camber: Before= -1.4 Actual= -1.5
Caster: Before= 1.3 Actual= 1.3
Toe: Before= 0.7mm Actual= 0.4mm
<U>Left Rear</U>
Camber: Specified Range= -2.0-0.0 Before= -1.6 Actual= -1.7
Toe: Specified Range= 0.5mm-2.0mm Before= 4.2mm Actual= 0.9mm
<U>Right Rear</U>
Camber: Before= -1.5 Actual= -1.6
Toe: Before= 3.3mm Actual= 0.9mm
For Front:
Cross Camber: Actual= -0.3 Before= -0.3
Cross Caster: Actual= -0.3 Before= -0.3
Total Toe: Actual= -0.1mm Before= -1.3mm
(Range for Total Toe= -2.0mm-2.0mm)
<U>Rear</U>
Total Toe: Specified Range= 1.0mm-4.1mm Before= 7.5mm Actual= 1.8mm
Thrust Angle: Before= 0.04 Actual= 0.00
Whew, sorry for the large table. I just want to give you guys all the info I can. I had the allignment done by Acura and I believe I put all the info that came on the printout. My main concern is the camber on the left front which is -1.8 as opposed to the right front which is -1.5. If you guys suggest that I should get a camber kit then I will pick one up, but I was kinda hoping I dont need one as this is one of the reasons I got the Prokit. Everyone said that I didnt need a camber kit for the Prokit and I believe Eibach says the same thing.
Well, any and all information you can give me is GREATELY APPRECIATED. Thanks for taking the time to read my numerical novel
George
[Modified by KANJI, 8:20 PM 10/4/2001]
[Modified by KANJI, 8:21 PM 10/4/2001]
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i *wish* I had that much neg camber in the rear.
to answer your question, no I wouldn't worry about it at all.
to answer your question, no I wouldn't worry about it at all.
I wish my car was aligned that well. When I had my second alignment done nothing was near specs, and that was with stock springs. .3° of camber difference is no difference. Don't worry about it at all. Mine were off from each other by a degree and a half and I didn't notice much (aside from a semi-minor pull).
I've had major major camber before accidentally for a while and nothing bad happened to my tires. It actually looked really strange. I forgot to tighten up my rear camber arms' bolts and they just came in to full negative. It was funny, but I was surprised that I couldn't get the back to step out at all. Hrm. Maybe the camber change toed the rear in or something.
Anyway... my whole point is don't worry about it. That's a pretty sweet alignment!
I've had major major camber before accidentally for a while and nothing bad happened to my tires. It actually looked really strange. I forgot to tighten up my rear camber arms' bolts and they just came in to full negative. It was funny, but I was surprised that I couldn't get the back to step out at all. Hrm. Maybe the camber change toed the rear in or something.
Anyway... my whole point is don't worry about it. That's a pretty sweet alignment!
From what people were sayuing in a older post, just make sure your toe settings are correct and you shoudn't have to worry about inner tire wear
Thanks alot for the responses guys, I appreciate the help. Just one more question though, the specified range on camber in the front -1.2 and I have -1.5 on the front right which I think is ok, but on the front left it is -1.8 which is .6 away from stock and this is why I thought it might be a little too much. Any thoughts?
I agree with the Sgt!
I have -2.25 camber on all four corner, from the Teins being on the car. I have premature wear on the stock RE-010 tires, but ever since I got the RE-730. I don't have that premature tire wear anymore, but you need to rotate your tire more. I rotate mines every oil change. Ohh-yeah, reason I had had to buy new tires was from Auto-X and driving from TX to CA. Damm, TX is a big @ss state to drive out from!
[Modified by Blazin ITR, 8:28 PM 10/5/2001]
[Modified by Blazin ITR, 8:29 PM 10/5/2001]
I have -2.25 camber on all four corner, from the Teins being on the car. I have premature wear on the stock RE-010 tires, but ever since I got the RE-730. I don't have that premature tire wear anymore, but you need to rotate your tire more. I rotate mines every oil change. Ohh-yeah, reason I had had to buy new tires was from Auto-X and driving from TX to CA. Damm, TX is a big @ss state to drive out from!
[Modified by Blazin ITR, 8:28 PM 10/5/2001]
[Modified by Blazin ITR, 8:29 PM 10/5/2001]
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My Camber is anywhere from -1.9 to -2.1. NO problems at all.
Toe is super important for tire wear. I run Front - 1/4" total Toe out and Rear - 1/8" total toe out.
Toe is super important for tire wear. I run Front - 1/4" total Toe out and Rear - 1/8" total toe out.
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