im getting an eg sedan pretty soon and i would like to stick with a d series but i dont know how much heavier an eg sedan would be than my ef hatch. im trying to decide if the sedans weight would limit a single cam motor too much and if i should just try to get an ls. any feedback from experiences with all motor single cam sedans would be greatly appreciated

 

you would be suprised. the curb weight of a lx sedan is actually lighter than a si hatch. its only like 2295 or somwhere ther abouts.

id still say go for a b seris motor or turbo the sohc though

 

yeah sedans arent that hevay as you may think. just stay from ex versions.

 

not at all, I run a 9.8 in the 1/8th with i/h/e, chip, ecu on my d15 in my lx

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHCwarrior &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not at all, I run a 9.8 in the 1/8th with i/h/e, chip, ecu on my d15 in my lx</TD></TR></TABLE>

im really curious to what tranny you are using and what are your 1/4 mile times?

 

why do you say stay away from ex???

 

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More options=more weight

 

well im not tryin to be a dick, but i have an ex sedan, and love it. why?? power everything and stock d16z6, i would rather have power everything than be a little bit lighter.

 

i was surprised, my boys EG DX sedan was light as hell.. trapped 97's w/ JDM GSR and I/E/H and Skunk2 IM on some hefty 18 lb steelies.

 

only thing on a EX that adds weight and isnt removable is the sunroof. power door locks and windows dont add THAT much, and u can remove it if you want.

 

The sunroof is a biggie though. It's about 40 lbs. sitting at the highest point of the car, which is the worst possible place to put extra weight.

 

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im really curious to what tranny you are using and what are your 1/4 mile times?</TD></TR></TABLE>
as am i....

i'm caught inbetween going sohc turbo and mildly built b16

 

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Location of weight isn't really a factor in straightline racing... well other than which wheels the weight is over.

Being top heavy is only bad in corners.

IMO 300lbs in options (.3 sec. in the quater mile) is pretty worth it's weight so-to-speak; considering most of us don't live at the track... I'd rather have A/C and power windows on the drive down to a track than be saving a .3 secs AT the track.

 

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i know, but itd 40lbs, it wont make THAT big of a difference.

 

I LOVE my 93 LX sedan

DX Sedan: 2275 lbs
LX Sedan: 2319 lbs
Si Hatch: 2325 lbs
EX Sedan: 2480 lbs

My Setup:
1993 Honda Civic LX Sedan (Weighed in at 2320 lbs without driver)
D15B7 Block and Tranny
D16Z6 Head / Intake Manifold / Exhaust Manifold
Full Interior with Spare Tire, Tools
Short Ram Intake w/ removed headlight
Welded-on straight through eBay muffler
Stock Cat/Exhaust Piping
Original Clutch w/ 160,000 miles
No PS belt
175/50/13 All-Season tires on 13" VX Wheels @ 23psi

Timeslip:

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I LOVE my 93 LX sedan

DX Sedan: 2275 lbs
LX Sedan: 2319 lbs
Si Hatch: 2325 lbs
EX Sedan: 2480 lbs
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Really not trying to be a dick... but thats only a 160lb difference... that's NOTHING... you could drill holes in your stock airbox and get more of a time reduction in the 1/4...

Loosing just about every creature comfort for less than .2 secs in the 1/4 seems not just silly, but plain dumb imo.

 

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Loosing just about every creature comfort for less than .2 secs in the 1/4 seems not just silly, but plain dumb imo.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What creature comfort? The only thing the EX has that the LX doesnt is a gay sunroof and gay interior...my car has A/C, power windows, locks, cruise control...everything

 

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What creature comfort? The only thing the EX has that the LX doesnt is a gay sunroof and gay interior...my car has A/C, power windows, locks, cruise control...everything</TD></TR></TABLE>

sunroof sure doesnt and 160lbs.....

 

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sunroof sure doesnt and 160lbs.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Then you tell me what adds the weight? My car doesnt come with A/C standard but I weighed it (mine has A/C) and its 2320lbs...same as curb weight.

Read this: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=690806

Only thing EX has that my LX doesnt is possibly the 14" wheels instead of my stock 13" wheels, the slightly heavier D16Z6, and the anti-lock 4-wheel disc brakes. Maybe the ABS system adds weight?

 

the ABS definately adds 30lbs if not more. luckly my EX doesnt have it. rear discs weight the same, if not less. AC system is a good 40lbs+. every car ive weighed almost ALWAYS weighs less than the listed curb weight. so keep that in mind. my guess is a EX is ~100lbs more than yours.

 

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What creature comfort? The only thing the EX has that the LX doesnt is a gay sunroof and gay interior...my car has A/C, power windows, locks, cruise control...everything</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was thinking after I posted that that the lx probobly came with some more options... but again I don't get the weight difference then...

My ex has NO abs, hence didn't come with rear disks, and I can't imagine my "gay" interior weights that much... the steelies would make up some weight but I don't have those anymore...

I just think the whole sweating over weight on a car that ALL The models are "light" by auto manufacture's standards...

Civics are light... a stripped one isn't going to be much lighter than a loaded one... probobly not enough to make a even .5 sec in a 1/4mi run... just seems pointless to me unless you're striving for the LAST DROP of performance...

to each their own though... Don't take no skin off my back.

 

to light DX sedans

also ex has sunroof thats like 50 pounds right there...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BauleyCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I LOVE my 93 LX sedan

DX Sedan: 2275 lbs
LX Sedan: 2319 lbs
Si Hatch: 2325 lbs
EX Sedan: 2480 lbs

My Setup:
1993 Honda Civic LX Sedan (Weighed in at 2320 lbs without driver)
D15B7 Block and Tranny
D16Z6 Head / Intake Manifold / Exhaust Manifold
Full Interior with Spare Tire, Tools
Short Ram Intake w/ removed headlight
Welded-on straight through eBay muffler
Stock Cat/Exhaust Piping
Original Clutch w/ 160,000 miles
No PS belt
175/50/13 All-Season tires on 13" VX Wheels @ 23psi

Timeslip:
</TD></TR></TABLE>

eeeewwwwwwwwwwwww you ran at crapitol

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dimi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you can't reach over to unlock the doors (it's not like the sedans are HUGE cars that you need to raech 10ft away to unlocl the doors), if you can't roll down the window, and you NEEED a sunroof you're just a plain tool. Manual windows, locks, etc...is WAY better. Easier to maintain and less wiring and breakage of parts. IMO...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, TOTALLY...

You're a "tool" when you DON'T lean across the car to roll up your pass. window... and you're a "tool" when you DON'T have to lean across the car to unlock the doors...

I don't know about you but I have kids... and the more convenient it is getting/letting them or my wife in the car or making the car more comfortable without turning the back seats into a windtunnel (sunroof/AC) the better.

My first car was a sentra E which is like the most stripped car you can get... it didn't even come with speakers... not even the wiring for them... no pass. side mirror... no NOTHING... and it was great and I loved it and all... but having power windows and AC is a LOT cooler than not.

I certainly didn't feel to "cool" when I was in traffic on 95 in 100+ degree weather for HOURS everyday without AC.

The only thing that my lack of power accessories actually "did" for me was make my forearms look like popeyes' from steering in parking lots with no P/S.

What good does "less wiring" do you???
How is it "easier to maintain"???
Most manual windows break more often than power ones do...

Also manual windows make it MUCH MUCH easier to break into the car w/o breaking the window... So do manual locks depending on how they're set up.

Having push buttons for sake of example with an actuator built into the lock would be MUCH more safe than having all the lock rods running back and forth across the door panel... Can't slimjim a car with no lock rods...

 

i think anything other than a bicycle is too heavy for an all motor d series