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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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Anyone know how to replace one of the bolts that secure the valve cover in place? My stupid self screwed the nut too hard and it broke.
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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over the spark plug cover, or on the outer part of the valve cover itself?
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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The bolt is cut flush with the valve cover. I'm guessing I could simpy remove the valve cover and replace the bolt with a pair of vice-grips?
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 10:51 AM
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you need a new stud. this is a common problem with B series motors. Call up Len on H-T or a local dealer and order a few and extras.

For future reference, I think you are supposed to wait til the motor is cool and not hot when torqueing these nuts/studs.
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 10:55 AM
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Go to sears...get the easy-out screw extractor...looks like this...



You use the smallest one...it works...I've done it before. You use the drill bit end to drill a hole in the center of the bolt...then...flip it around to the threaded side...stick it in the hole...and back the screw out...took me 5 mins. Good luck
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by charjacq &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The bolt is cut flush with the valve cover. I'm guessing I could simpy remove the valve cover and replace the bolt with a pair of vice-grips?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Pull the valvecover off and your questions will be answered, no vice grips or easy outs involved. Just get a new stud from Honda/Acura.
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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And remember to torque them right properly. 22 ft/lbs I beleive is what it needs to be on.
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 04:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by anothaRRR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And remember to torque them right properly. 22 ft/lbs I beleive is what it needs to be on.</TD></TR></TABLE>

22ft/lbs...riiiiight. No wonder the bolt snapped! Try again.
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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yeah pull the valve cover off, and all your questions will be answered
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by anothaRRR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And remember to torque them right properly. 22 ft/lbs I beleive is what it needs to be on.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what the...... NIce missinformation.
just take the valve cover off and unbolt that bitch from the head replace. then torque it to what the helms manual says
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mstewar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">over the spark plug cover, or on the outer part of the valve cover itself?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i broke one nut over the spark plug cover this weekend. any way to fix that?
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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pull off valve cover, replace stud
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 07:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by anothaRRR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And remember to torque them right properly. 22 ft/lbs I beleive is what it needs to be on.</TD></TR></TABLE>Tripling the torque isnt the same thing as triple checking...
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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hapend to me last week replace the bolt and torque it to 8 or 9 max!
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BudMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

22ft/lbs...riiiiight. No wonder the bolt snapped! Try again. </TD></TR></TABLE>I think he meant the stud, that's supposed to be torqued into the head at 22 ft./lbs. At least i hope that's what he meant.
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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I have never heard of anyone doing this since I have been on here. Two days after I do it this thread pops up. Weird huh? I need to order another stud also.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 01:11 AM
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According to my Helms stud torque is 20 ft-lbs and 7,2 ft-lbs for the valve cover nut.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 01:28 AM
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I keep spares in my tool box, lol. Common problem, easy fix.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 03:56 AM
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Welcome to the "f*ck !! I broke a stud" club Do like everyone is saying, pull the valve cover, remove the stud with a vise grip and install a new one. Word of caution: TORQUE IT LIGHTLY !! No more than 8lbs/ft or you'll be starting all over again
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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Alright, thanks guys. Anyone know which stud I could use from a honda dealer? It's for a JDM type-R. I'm guessing B16 studs would match too? I'm just too lazy to go the the acura dealership, I have to go to honda anyway.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 09:12 AM
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Vice grips? Use a 10mm or 12mm box wrench or deep socket instead. The outer studs are flange-nutted at the base where they thread into the cap plates.

Same thing with the inner valve cover studs (12mm deep), only you replace the entire cam cap bolt.

The parts should be universal P30 or PR3 parts.

And, you can still snap bolts and studs with a torque wrench if you swing it too forcefully or too fast. Use slow, steady pressure on the torque wrench, moving from the 1 o'clock to 5 o'clock position (or mirror-imaged for left-handers). Or, you can just forget the torque wrench and do it with a short 3/8" drive ratchet. It's not a critically-stressed part of the engine so proper fastener tension stretch isn't necessary....only proper retention.

Valve Cover Stud/Cam Cap Bolt (long - middle) [6x1.00] 90014-PR3-000

I don't know the part number for the outer studs.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boges &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think he meant the stud, that's supposed to be torqued into the head at 22 ft./lbs. At least i hope that's what he meant.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah thats what I meant, if its the stud that goes on the cam caps. Sorry if I confused some people.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 02:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by anothaRRR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah thats what I meant, if its the stud that goes on the cam caps. Sorry if I confused some people.</TD></TR></TABLE>

We're just playing with ya I need to order a couple again just to have in the box.

fwiw - I've never torqed one of these things yet. Even a mini torque wrench can be 'off' enough to snap these little turds. They should have made them strong enough for ~15-20ft/lbs so this doesn't happen
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BudMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've never torqed one of these things yet. Even a mini torque wrench can be 'off' enough to snap these little turds. They should have made them strong enough for ~15-20ft/lbs so this doesn't happen </TD></TR></TABLE>

Found this out the hard way (on another car). Torque wrenches are often very inaccurate around 10 ft. lbs.

It's probably best to hand tighten using a wrench with a short handle.
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