I know there is none for the prelude but is there someone that can make them for our ludes?? what would we need to get this duone.. I am down to put some cash on hand for this if we can get this going.

 

An intercooler on a turbo or centrifugal sc set up feeds the intake after the turbo/supercharger. Therein lies the problem, the JRSC feeds the compressed air directly to the intake so any cooling must be achieved at the same point.

 

No way around this big lew.. I know I came from domestic camp Mainly stangs and I know that 03 and 04 cobra uses same eaton blower and its intercooled so are the saleens and you can get it intercooled.

 

Those are top mounted on the SVTs right?

 

yep

 

I wouldn't imagine being able to cram a top mounted intercooler on top the blower in a prelude engine bay, but I don't know much about this. I did some poking around and found that there is an intercooler kit for the JRSC for miata's I wonder what this looks like, I don't think it's top mounted. Jackson racing doesn't make anything but roots type and eaton twin screw blowers right?

 

actually, it has been done. it requires custom fabrication and the flow path isn't quite ideal.

member superSH on preludeonline.com has posted his custom IC for the jrsc 5th gen in the FI forum. go check it out if interested.

 

Cool thanks.

 

I don't know for sure but it looks like most of the setups cool in coming air as opposed to air that has already been compressed, if this is the case I don't see the point.

 

The miatas Air is compressed first, run through a pipe and then through the throttle body. Mustangs have a smaller (Sandwiched) liquid intercooler between the supercharger and the intake Mani. Either case, the air is compressd first, then cooled. You can do the same thing to the Prelude, but there's not any room to move the supercharger higher to make room for the intercooler, so you would have to design a whole new intake Manifold that drops lower. Not to mention a new bracket that would have to be made. (or just cut a hole in your hood) Muscle car meets import. Not for me.

 

Could water injection aid intake charge cooling?

If I had the JRSC and a built engine id jam as much cooling in as possible like...
*Water injection
*Cryo intake tube attachment b4 JRSC to cool intake temps
*Water to air cooler with heat exchanger

Its a pitty no direct bolt on cooler is available, even it it was then wouldnt it be too close to the bulkhead/not fit?

 

I've already made a simple set up for this. (Water injection) I haven't hooked it up yet. Plans are changing. Problem is. It's BEFORE the Charge air. Not as effective. There's little or no room between the Charger and the manifold for this.
My friends at Autologic did a water injection kit for a supercharged NSX. Same issue. they put the squirter in the intake before the charge air. It didn't add any horsepower but it smoothed out the power curve considerably. So it seems it would help.


Modified by nsxlr8 at 10:25 PM 1/26/2004

 

could the same thing that NX have work (there N R Cooler work) if u spray the charger???

 

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member superSH on preludeonline.com has posted his custom IC for the jrsc 5th gen in the FI forum. go check it out if interested.</TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.preludeonline.com/s...ooler

If you don't have a po account, maybe it's time to get one

This was the first and only one he has built, but he has plans for an improved design. I don't know if he still has plans to build the new one, but you guys could contact him about it. I bet for the right price he would do it. This sort of design really is the only viable solution, unless LHT decides to try to incorporate their design into the lude kit.

 

QUOTE: I bet for the right price he would do it.


Yeah that'll be a nice rounded figur! Stuff that I think I will start designing one for all you lucky JRSC owners (then buy a JRSC myself!)

Right, you guys are going to have to help me out here!

so

Questions:
*How much space is there behing the JRSC that it could be viably moved back as far as.
*Will the jackshaft need to be modified
*How many of you guys are willing to buy a proffesionally fabricated one if I design and produce them for a competitive price(after all I am currently launching my co. so might as well diversify!)

Well..?

 

Sounds like a the same concept of using a chill plate inbetween the the blower and a SC.

 

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Maybe if you contacted him you could get a better figure
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None.
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If you had read the po thread, you would know that it involved modifying the lower intake plenum to incorporate an air/water core in such a way that kept the JRSC in it's exact stock installed position. It has NOTHING to do with the jackshaft.

 

thats what im thinking! so any info?

 

I didnt say it did!; I was presuming that the JRSC would need to be moved back and a cooler put in between it and the engine,

If the JRSC was to be moved back (which i know now it can't thanks) the the jackshaft would of needed to be modified would it not!

sharkcohen; where did you get the impression that I was taking the idea from the PO thread?

 

In this case, you wouldn't have to move the manifold back. You would have to move it down.

 

So does the JRSC completely replace the intake plenum?

 

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Actually, I had the impression that you hadn't read the thread

 

I havent.
But I'd like to use my ingenuity to design a solution if ppl are willing to help with info, I considered a JRSC but never bothered because of cooling. :/ tell me.. Does VTEC really kick with the JRSC then?

 

That would really depend on how it is tuned. Ideally, vtec shouldn't "kick", there should be a smooth power transition. When vtec "kicks in", that usually means that the transition hasn't been well tuned or vtec is engaging at an improper rpm.

 

EDIT: I'm a dumbass


Modified by mrlegoman at 2:15 PM 1/30/2004