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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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Anyone know if most/all honda distributor igniters are interchangeable? I got a starting problem with my 1992 civic dx, and it was suggested to be the igniter and I want to swap my ITR igniter to see if it works. I already tried to use the ITR main relay but that didnt help. Thanks
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 08:11 AM
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Looks the same....

ITR Igniter # 8

Civic Igniter # 7 or 9 I think
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 08:11 AM
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I used to swap them between my B16-1st gen. and d15/16 ignitors all the time. They usually have parts that are just a few numbers off, but work with no problems. If it fits, give it a try. What are your symptoms?
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Old Jan 20, 2004 | 08:13 AM
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Thanks for the info

lots of symptoms, pretty long thread...

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=737769

feel free to offer suggestions
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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alright, my other thread is too long so Im gonna continue this one. I know its not ITR related, but its the same concept for both D and B series motors. Please offer some suggestions.

If the igniter is going bad or is bad, will the car start at all? This is what happens. If I let the car sit for awhile without trying to start it, say 1 day, when I go to start it, it will fire right up, run for 5 secs, then sputter and die. If I try to start it again, it might run for 2 secs, then die. If I try again, it just cranks. WTF is going on?? Can the igniter work once or twice and then stop working like that???

When I tried to start it the first time tonight, it ran for 5 secs, and there was loud tapping/knocking(definitely not the valves ticking). Sometimes it will do that when starting but it seems after it warms up some, it goes away. This is really pissing me off and I NEED to get this car back on the road.

Things Ive ruled out:
Battery
Main relay
oil level is fine
fuel filter is new
plugs are recent, but cant get them out
cap/rotor are recent
car runs fine when it actually runs, no signs of hesitation or smoke or anything
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 05:37 PM
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how cold is it where you're at?
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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Fuel pump?
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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I was also thinking the fuel pump or maybe it has a short and does not stay on 100%
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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 05:04 AM
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Weather is not a problem, it hasnt been above freezing in a few weeks but it started fine last week when it was -10 each morning. Weather isnt a factor.

Fuel pump sounds like its coming on fine when put in ON position, unless maybe its fuel pressure problem or something? Not sure how to check that without a gauge, maybe Ill have to pick one up.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 08:36 AM
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I used an Ignitor off of an SI when mine went bad, same numbers on the part itself but different part #'s due to different brackets used. If you get the SI one just unscrew the bracket and replace with the one off the ITR Ignitor.

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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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Im replying to this thread because I am having a very similar problem. I have fuel, it turns over, but I am not getting any spark. This is on a B16A.

Guy on here told me to do this, directions to test BOTH the ignitor and the coil from a Honda service manual. I will be testing mine later today.

"yes you can test the coil and the ICM, but you need an ohm meter and a volt meter... the specs are:
Coil - Primary Winding Resistance (Between the A and B terminals): .6 - .8 ohms
Secondary Winding Resistance (Between the A and secondary winding terminals): 12,800 - 19,200 ohms
ICM -
1. Disconnect the BLK/YEL, WHT/BLU, YEL/GRN, and BLU wires from the ICM
2. Turn the ignition switch ON. Check for voltage between the BLK/YEL wire and body ground. There should be battery voltage.
- If there is no battery voltage, check the BLK/YEL wire between the igniton switch and the ICM.
- If there is bagttery voltage, to to 3.
3. Turn the ignition switch ON. Check fro voltage between the WHT/BLU wire and body ground. There should be battery voltage.
- If ther is no battery voltage, check:
- Ignition coil.
- WHT/BLU wire between the coil and the ICM
- If there is battery voltage, go to 4
4. Check the YEL/GRN wire between the ECM and the ICM
5. Check the BLU wire between the tachometer and the ICM.
6. If all tests are normal, replace the ICM

*Taken from honda service manual for 1994 Honda del Sol, omitted step 1 (take off dizzy cap, figured it was a no brainer )
"-FrostySol


Hope this helps. If you have a multimeter give it a try. Goodluck.
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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 09:28 AM
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Someone sent me some info about how to do a fuel pump flow test. Im gonna give that a shot first since I dont think its a spark problem.
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