well a bit back i traded a 3" exhaust and other parts for a 97+ h22 head..

i have yet to get the cam caps from the owner... i was told id get them asap.

anyways..


can i get other cam caps? from what i was told and know bout B and other motors.. that you kinda need the ones for that head, for it to fit and balance right?

Is this true? without them then the head would be worthless right?

 

I take it you are talking about the cam seals. Just buy some mew OEM ones!!!!

 

no he is not talking about the cam seals, he is talking about the cam holder caps, these are replaceable but might be hard to find and expensive, you might want to try an h23 head for the center caps, you wouldnt be able to use the cap for the last cam holder due to its special oil line through it for the vtec system, anyhow, as long as there is no play there shouldnt be a problem also, even if they didnt fit you could have the caps milled down and then regrind to the right diameter, good luck

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Speedra500 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no he is not talking about the cam seals, he is talking about the cam holder caps, these are replaceable but might be hard to find and expensive, you might want to try an h23 head for the center caps, you wouldnt be able to use the cap for the last cam holder due to its special oil line through it for the vtec system, anyhow, as long as there is no play there shouldnt be a problem also, even if they didnt fit you could have the caps milled down and then regrind to the right diameter, good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes i am talking bout cam caps...
they are the holders on the shafts..

so there may be light if this guy dont send them? i dont want to post a name. cause i want to give him a chance, i mean its only been a few months.. :rollseyes:

 

Try to get them from him, b/c like main caps, they are worn to each other. If you throw a new set or a used set from another motor on, then you may have to have it line-bored to make sure the caps are truly circular to the head.

 

Correct.

Cam caps from head to head are not interchangeable. If you do have to use cam caps from another head, it is recommended to have a machine shop check the tolerances to make sure everything is with-in spec. If not, they will be line bored as stated previously.

I know this from experience since GUDE actually broke one of my cam caps during shipment then tried telling me to just use a spare one they had laying around their shop. Long story short, I had to get a new head and go through all sorts of bullshit with them.

 

You can't not buy the cam caps from honda, unless you buy a brand new head. My advise is see if you can get the caps from that guy and if not try and get your money back and go buy another head that has them on it.

 

Well does anyone speak to Mikeyslude he is the one, he has a really really nice turboset up and i he was on here the other day, i im'ed him twice, where he responsed one. I ve also left messages on his AIM away message and i am sure he knows that i am in need of them.

i cant seem to get any other response from him:

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GudeH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Correct.

Cam caps from head to head are not interchangeable. If you do have to use cam caps from another head, it is recommended to have a machine shop check the tolerances to make sure everything is with-in spec. If not, they will be line bored as stated previously.</TD></TR></TABLE>

maybe im mis understanding, but if the tolerances are off how can line boring which will take out more material make the tolerances better? i mean with cams they just use an oil bearing, its not like our main caps where there are actual metal bearing thats can be replaced with thicker ones to compensate for material taken off.

the only thing i could think off is if they some how mil the bottom of the cap to mak it shorter and then line bore. it seems pretty complicated, then that cam cap or caps would sit lower than all the rest.. maybe im alittle slow todaty i don't work good on 5 hours of sleep

 

anyone???

it dont look like he is going to be on anytime soon??

 

ttt please

 

i got the same problem...i bought a head from this guy and he sent it unwrapped just in a box by itself and the cam cap cracked . i thought i could use the cam cap from my old head but from what i just read it doesnt look like its possible. if i got my old cam cap checked to see if it was true could i use it?

h23 head


its supposed to have comp springs and retianers how can tell?

 

we both need help ......bump


Modified by 95deckedlude at 5:05 PM 3/12/2004

 

Cam caps are machined for each specific head and given a certain set of tolerances. If you mix and match the caps you must have a machine shop check the tolerances to make sure everything is up to par. I have seen an individual get away with running one mis-matched cap (#1 exh) and he got away with it. It's always better to be safe then sorry.

 

what if replaced the cams and cam caps from my good head and put it on the head that had a cracked cap?since they were worn together would that work? the reason why i want to keep the cracked head is because it has a 5angle valve job and its ported and polished.

 

What if you actually read what I just typed? Cam caps are not interchangeable from head to head. You might be able to get away with it, but if not you run a risk of ******* up the camshafts and actual 'journal's if the specs are too tight/loose.

I have seen someone swap out 1 cam cap and be fine... and it is even the same cam cap that you have cracked. You might be ok... but then again you might not. Play it safe and have a machine shop check it out for you. The specs are located in the helms manual.

 

if i can find some.. i ll have the shop doing my work, meaure them to spec, sand/machine/balance whatever it takes

just pisses me off, someone sells or gets you a complete head and then you get it and its not all there.. and some of the most important stuff isnt there and then they vanish!