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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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I need to know if NSX calipers will just bolt on to my 93 h22. I have seen some conversions done but I have the AEM big rotor kit and if they are just a bolt on I can use them.
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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yes they are a direct bolt on
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 02:39 PM
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yes they will bolt right in couple of mods
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 02:41 PM
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What do yu do about the 4channel abs controller sys present in the nsx? how do yu wire therear channel?

prelude is 3channel ABS isnt it?
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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i dont think it will matter ....ABS sensors read off the hub it self and the braking is done via computer controlled "pumping"

so the caliper is just a caliper
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by machine4321 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont think it will matter ....ABS sensors read off the hub it self and the braking is done via computer controlled "pumping"

so the caliper is just a caliper </TD></TR></TABLE>

Too true. It's simple. you have the V-tec rotors, It will just bolt right in.

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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 03:45 AM
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So just use orig sensors then?

How much does a set of NSX brakes cost?
and how much bigger and better are they?
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 04:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hseriesmm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes they will bolt right in couple of mods</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is true. There was writeup on the whole install back in the day on hondaprelude.com, and the only mod that needed to be done was to take a set of oem nsx brakepads, worn preferably and grind ALL of the pad material off, creating a shim, and insert the shim prior to installing the new pads. As far as i remember, thats it.

nsx brakes are expensive, you could maybe find a set of calipers for $500+
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 06:10 AM
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did theyuse the NSX rotors then?
...or did they use the prelude rotors, hence theneed for the shim.?
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 08:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OTT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did theyuse the NSX rotors then?
...or did they use the prelude rotors, hence theneed for the shim.?</TD></TR></TABLE>

They used the factory prelude rotors.
No, you cannot use NSX rotors....they are five lug. Unless you have a 5th gen lude 5 lug conversion, which i'm really not even sure if its the exact same bolt pattern (i think it is), you cant use the nsx rotor.
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FaS4wS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

They used the factory prelude rotors.
No, you cannot use NSX rotors....they are five lug. Unless you have a 5th gen lude 5 lug conversion, which i'm really not even sure if its the exact same bolt pattern (i think it is), you cant use the nsx rotor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the NSX and 5th gen ludes have the same 5x114.3 bolt pattern
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FaS4wS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

This is true. There was writeup on the whole install back in the day on hondaprelude.com, and the only mod that needed to be done was to take a set of oem nsx brakepads, worn preferably and grind ALL of the pad material off, creating a shim, and insert the shim prior to installing the new pads. As far as i remember, thats it.

nsx brakes are expensive, you could maybe find a set of calipers for $500+</TD></TR></TABLE>

Instead of looking for worn NSX pads and wearing them down to use for shims, why dont you just buy some Nsx shims from acura for like $3 bux??
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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yeah, that's a good question.
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 03:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cottonwoodz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Instead of looking for worn NSX pads and wearing them down to use for shims, why dont you just buy some Nsx shims from acura for like $3 bux??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Because the shim needed has to be 1/8" thick, which is roughly the thickness of the backing plate of the brake pad.
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 05:30 AM
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Wow, same PCD as NSX wheels!!, me thinks 5-lug conversion and NSX
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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just a little comment...i'd use the legend 2 piston callipers instead of the nsx ones...legends have slightly larger pistons and are much more affordable, and easier to find as well...just my .02 from my brake swap on an accord...
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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do you have to use shims on the Legend brake cnversion?
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nick H &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just a little comment...i'd use the legend 2 piston callipers instead of the nsx ones...legends have slightly larger pistons and are much more affordable, and easier to find as well...just my .02 from my brake swap on an accord...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, but then they won't say NSX on the side.

I agree here. The only reason I have the NSX calipers is because they were off my old car. - Free.

As for the shim. .... Um. Not in my case. Just because the rotors are a different thickness, it doesn't mean you have to shim it. Just put it on.

The 5th Gen has the same bolt patternas the nsx, but I don't think the offset is the same. Maybe. I'll compare some-time next week if I get around to it. - I work alot.
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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i got the conversion on my lude, it bolts up directly. i had a machine shop make 5mm shims for the brake pads, because the vtec lude rotors are 5mm thinner than the nsx rotors.

nsx calipers need to be 91-96 year

they work great, reason i went with them is because it is the only brake upgrade that will fit under 15" rims. all others need 17" rims or bigger

http://www.cardomain.com/id/boostlee
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostlee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they work great, reason i went with them is because it is the only brake upgrade that will fit under 15" rims. all others need 17" rims or bigger</TD></TR></TABLE>

so your saying the legend calpier upgrade won't work w/15in rims,
only the nsx ones will?
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostlee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.cardomain.com/id/boostlee</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your car is sick...nice work
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SKDRCR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

so your saying the legend calpier upgrade won't work w/15in rims,
only the nsx ones will? </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes they will

information here:
http://www.accordinglydone.com/tech.php?ID=80

and here

http://www.accordinglydone.com/tech.php?ID=32
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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that would be tight.....the offset on the nsx wheels are crazy, and with a list of 1135 each from honda for fronts and 1320 for rears, the rims are a little too fuggin expensive
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 12:38 AM
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You can buy mine for $300. No kidding. 15" front. 16" rear. No tires. Hows that for discount?
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 05:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxlr8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yeah, but then they won't say NSX on the side.

I agree here. The only reason I have the NSX calipers is because they were off my old car. - Free.

As for the shim. .... Um. Not in my case. Just because the rotors are a different thickness, it doesn't mean you have to shim it. Just put it on.

The 5th Gen has the same bolt patternas the nsx, but I don't think the offset is the same. Maybe. I'll compare some-time next week if I get around to it. - I work alot. </TD></TR></TABLE>


What is the actual offset on the NSX then?

And The wheels are 'forged' alloys so how much do they weigh, and due to their 'said' durability, lightweight and strength then is there any advantages of an aftermarket set over the NSX ones?
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