WHAT'S MY HP/BOOST LIMIT?

I've been told that 15 PSI or 300 WHP is pushing it with stock sleeves. My turbo is a T3 .48 4 bolt exhaust with a .60 Ar 57 Trim Compressor.

No 'IMO' answers, actual numbers please.

Thanks,

Todd.

 

Lots of people making 300+ and 400+ and even a few over 500 WHP on the stock sleeves on here. For a car that sees the street a lot, i'd say 350-400 WHP would be safe.

 

Thanks, oh BTW - It's a B16 and I will have to bore to 81.5 - a broken ring land resulted in some pretty good gashes in the sleeve.

 

as long as its tuned good you shouldnt have a problem

 

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took the words outta my mouth

 

I'm building my motor for the same thing... around 400whp on stock sleeves...

 

im going for 400whp stock sleeves (stock internals too)

 

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Thanks cuz you a crazy mo fo

 

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I also have 2 other cars to daily drive..

 

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i wonder how 1st gen b16's hold up to 400hp..

 

stock sleeves can hold alot of power Todd

Chris with the Built B16A is going stock sleeves and pistons and rods.

Alot of people are having over heating issues with sleeves and so forth

Me and ELSPOOL are doing stock sleeves and JE pistons and rods and hope 300-350hp.

 

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i wonder how 1st gen b16's hold up to 400hp.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

its a 2nd gen 2mm headgasket and ARP's...It made 310 on pump gas and a t3/to4e before (injectors were maxed so we stopped there)...now its time for larger injectors, SC61 and revhard intake manifold...theres been a few other b16's ~400whp and some stock b18c1's making way over that

 

what size injectors are you going to run?

 

check out my sig. . .

stock sleeves, 81.5mm Wiseco's, 93 octane pump gas

 

why is this question asked on almost a daily basis?? does the search button not work today??

 

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LOL...actually it wasn't working for me earlier but i doubt that is the case..

 

Are you guy's cars daily driven? It's sounding tempting to me to throw pistons in my b18c1 so I can run 14-15psi all day.

 

I currently have RC 720's tuned with Hondata and a Walboror 255 F.I. Pump.

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I tried a search using "stock sleeves" "most HP stock" "Most psi sleeves" "most boost sleeves" and nothing.

 

I'm going for 250hp on the street, and 300hp for the track. I'm gonna try to do this on stock block. I've seen #'s a lot larger than this on stock blocks, but most were not daily driven. I am confident with a good tune you could easily push 10-12 lbs everyday. Then turn up the boost for track runs. I've seen post with larger #'s and more boost, but then you have to take other things in consideration, such as axles, more expensive injectors, possibly more guages, spark, lsd, wear and tear, etc... I'm not saying these need to be done, but I personally feel if you can't get the power to the ground (and have some reliability), sometimes less is more. Just my opinion though.

 

I'm thinking of doing the same thing. What is everything that you need? Pistons, Rings, Rods, Head Gasket, Timing belt, Type R Oil pump, ARP head studs and rod bolts. Am I missing anything? Also, how hard is the assembly? With the right tools, can someone of decent mechanical capabilites tackle this job?

 

I have a bone stock sir1 b16a that i made a custom kit for. 254 whp at 6 psi and 276 at 8 psi on a dynojet. i calculated it that using the amount of power i am making per pound of boost if i stayed at that I would be pushing over 400 at 15 psi, but i also have to account for the lower compression too. I plan on building a stock sleeve ls block w/ rods and pistons only for now, then eventually sleeve it. but with the ls block i hope i can run a super safe 325-350 at the wheels daily and be able to break four hundred for the track.

 

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its a 2nd gen 2mm headgasket and ARP's...It made 310 on pump gas and a t3/to4e before (injectors were maxed so we stopped there)...now its time for larger injectors, SC61 and revhard intake manifold...theres been a few other b16's ~400whp and some stock b18c1's making way over that </TD></TR></TABLE>

we are doing a 1st gen b16.... stock headgasket, sc61, overblown motorsports manifold, precision 880cc injectors, aem ems....

this made well over 600 on a 7.5:1 compression 2 liter b16 that just spun a bering.. so we tossed the stock b16 we had layin around in there for the meantime.

 

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I'm going for 250hp on the street, and 300hp for the track. I'm gonna try to do this on stock block. I've seen #'s a lot larger than this on stock blocks, but most were not daily driven. I am confident with a good tune you could easily push 10-12 lbs everyday. Then turn up the boost for track runs. I've seen post with larger #'s and more boost, but then you have to take other things in consideration, such as axles, more expensive injectors, possibly more guages, spark, lsd, wear and tear, etc... I'm not saying these need to be done, but I personally feel if you can't get the power to the ground (and have some reliability), sometimes less is more. Just my opinion though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I had 247 WHP (dyno tuned with HOndata) and 8 hours after I left the shop, I lost compression in #3 (210, 215, 30, 210). This was on a 100% stock B16 except a thick head gasket and ARP head studs. I think I broke a ring land.

As for the other stuff I may need, click the link in my sig. This isn't the first time I've built my integra..... The motor there has long since been grenaded and I replaced it with a stock B16, just to drive it. So much for that idea.

 

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How is that possible? I had 247 whp @ 12 PSI.

 

Stock compression, efficient turbo, big DP and a good flowing manifold.

You dropped your compression too much Todd.