SO my stock GSR is lagging, and I might get a JRSC. I know it is no turbo, but it is a little less stressful and easier to deal with. ANYWAY. I am just gonna strap it on my GSR, no other mods minus an intake. My question is, should I run just the 6lbs of boost or whatever it is till i get exhaust?

I was planning on a 2.5 inch exhaust, and maybe like a toda or comptech header.

Oh, does the Hondata intake manifold gasket work with the JRSC?

I know I am gonna need tires, and some fuel management, what about a clutch, injectors, etc? I searched, and found scattered and mixed opinions. I am looking for thoughts from those guys with the S/C on their GSR's. Thanks

Josh

 

Unless you are gettin a used Supercharger it is not the best way to augment your GSR. People say they are more reliable but that might only be true if the car is properly tuned, detonation is detonation regardless whether the car is supercharged turbocharged or anything else. Also what is likely to happen is you will get the supercharger be initially satisfied with the level of performance then want more, the answer to that is spend a lot more money and not get nearly enough power. For the cost of a JR supercharger it is far easier more reliable and more fun to build your own turbo kit, forget the turbo kits they are for lazy Kats who do not want to research a project and be thorough. Tuning is key regardless of which avenue you decide to pursue. I don't mean to bad talk Jackson I have driven my share and they are a nice addition to hondas but there are more effective and reliable ways to get more than the S/C will offer and for around the same price. Good luck

 

Thats the idea, I would rather have a turbo, but I may be gettin a helluva deal on the S/C, so I have decided for the price it would be a good upgrade, and with a properly built motor, I could get 300 hp, or close to it, maybe around 270 to the wheels.

Anyone know about the hondata gasket? or the clutch, and other necessary upgrades?

 

Hey man... this was just covered about a week ago on a thread that I started

Here's a link:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=721589

 

Friend of mine is getting a JRSC put on his GS-R this weekend by Nu Image. 10psi pulley, thicker headgasket, hondata im gasket, Apex'i AFC, AEM short ram, kamikaze header with stock cat/catback.

Supposed to be safe...I dunno.

 

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Find out what the final bill is. I'd love to know.

 

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I agree, Ive owned both and well im sure you can figure out which one I have.

But if you insist on going with the JRSC then i think a 2.5 exhuast should be fine, do some searching but I think the Kamikazee 2.5 header is great for supercharged apps.

How good of a deal are you getting on it?


Modified by quikB18B at 12:26 PM 1/9/2004

 

I just baught a JRSC w/ 8 & 10lb pulleys, kami header, 440 injectors, carsound cat, MSD, Jackson FMU for $2,200 which i couldnt pass up. I say u get the right deal its completely the right thing to go for and definitely if u have an everyday car like me. Its going to cost me $600 to install i just have hondata & clutch to buy. So really its about the same as turbo, price wise not power wise but i believe there is so much of a less chance of detonation. Alright my 2 cents later.

 

Definitely an incorrect statement. Check out the post above for some more info.

Theres no problem going with a JRSC, just be sure to base your decision on facts so you can be comfortable with it. A JRSC is no safer or more reliable than a turbo setup, especially when talking about detonation.

 

The deal may be pretty good, otherwise I am just gonna hold out. I was thinking the kit, with some good injectors, and hondata ought to run well, I always use premium fuel, so that is not a real issue. Someone should start a type of article, that list what you need to safely s/c and turbo a car, at what levels of boost, obviously depending on engine condtion and type, etc. That would be a great article, liek a reference.

 

It would be a good article, although people have different opinions on whats necessary, and what exactly running "right" means.

We can help you with what you need...for example if you say you want to run 8PSI, what would you need, and what would be optimal.

IMO, the base kit is not efficient. The FMU is retarded, tip in detonation and partial throttle is not safe, and the timing situation is primitive.

 

newgsrdriver, My biggest road block, as is everyone elses, is funding, I am a college student. I was thinking that the Jackson raicng kit, plus hondata, and maybe a walboro intake pump would help. I will give alis tof my goals

1: 250whp, hopefully 275.
This includes S/C, cams, head work, bolt ons, and of course tuning.

2: reliability. The ability to boost and be safe about it.

Since I am in college, the car barely gets drove, I have another car I use as a beater. So it will be mainly drove from may-august when I am home.

Are my goal possible, and if so, what all am I going to need guys?

 

a) Headwork and cams arent going to net you much.
b) For 250whp, youre looking at 9-11PSI on a JRSC setup. You can hit that with 10ishPSI on a stock motor with bolt-ons and solid tuning. I hit nearly 250whp @ 7PSI with a Drag kit recently, just something to keep in mind.
c) Reliability is relative. Properly installed and tuned, its all the same. Mine has lasted over 40k of boost, stock motor, and its doing well (knock on wood). Hondata made a HUGE difference with the charger, I think an EMS is necessary no matter what.

Any decent FI setup will cost you. You will need more money than you initially think, keep that in mind.

 

Thanks Nick, I am wondering if I should just start piecing together my own turbo kit, and run a t3 and go from there.

Manifold, turbo, wastegate, down pipe, intercooler, piping, hoses, lines, hardware, and Ems is gonna get expensive.

 

would a stock gsr engine handle the jrsc at 10 pounds? Tuned with an AFC

 

Maybe my 2 cents will work

I just got a JRSC, 10lb pulley, kami header, carsound cat, 440 injectors, MSD, JR FMU for 2,200 really i don't care what anybody says its an AWESOME deal.

I bought a Fluidyne radiator, thermostat , colder spark plugs, buying a stage 1 clutch with about 12lb flywheel and getting hondata s200 w/ boost option to tune.

So far it seems like i almost got everything i need just few hundred more for things i need then time to install.

Also I have a friend that knows a great mechanic who goes by the name of Ben Schafer which is a jackson racing dealer. I went to speak w/ him about installing and then i purchased another iteam that i wasnt sure that was going to work but took his advise because he is going to install for me. This iteam i purchased was an ITR intake cam Yeah i know people say cams do not work w/ a JRSC but from what the main website had to say about this guy he is highly recommend for his work. So i got an ITR intake cam w/ stock GSR exhaust cam waiting on getting cam gears to help with tuning then i think i have myself i unique Supercharged GSR ready and installed by the end of march. My 2 cents don't have to pay no mind but crackerballer if u have some questions PM me. Later

Sorry if spelling sucks im in a rush...At work hehe