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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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I spun my car out (90 CRX) and smashed up the rear suspension. I don't want to put the stock parts back in unless I have to, so I'm trying to get ideas for performance replacements. Some ideas I have are polyurethene bushings (I know those wont be a problem), but what about ITR LCAs, do they bolt in? I tried to search but there is such a jumble of information. Its an Si so it has discs in the back, so I don't need to worry about that, but what about the shocks and such. Is there anything that guys commonly swap on the chassis that I could probably get the insurance to pay for? If the front end is damaged at all I'll look at getting them to pay for my traction bars (haha) I was going to get a set anyway. Any ideas you guys have would be awesome.
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 04:32 AM
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bump for the day
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 05:20 AM
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If your gonna get new springs, shocks, bushing etc... I would personally get some KYP 5 way adjustable, with some H&R Race springs with your polyurathene bushing's.
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 05:51 AM
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I kan get KYB's for cheap too. Maybe that is something I'll look into. For springs though I'd probably go with Eibach, since I get those at cost too. I'm mostly intrested in the control arms though - since I know for sure one of those is bent. Is the ITR piece stronger or lighter? Can I use stock CRX shocks and hubs with it?
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 05:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -KangaRod- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm mostly intrested in the control arms though - since I know for sure one of those is bent. Is the ITR piece stronger or lighter? Can I use stock CRX shocks and hubs with it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes the LCA's will fit but not too sure on if it's lighter or not. I think it might widen the track of the car a little, and it has a bigger bushing for stiffness.
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 07:17 AM
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It might complicate things then....
do you think I should try and go with the ITR lcas?
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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Just use the 88 CRX LCR's there the same as the ITR ones..... makes more sense to me. Rob
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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coo, and less hassle from autopac (our insurance company) I supose I might as well pu a bushing kit though. You guys have any ideas (energy or prothane?) or a good place to pu a master set?
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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The '88 CRX LCAs are lighter than the 89-91 LCAs. Bushings were the same size between the two (at least for the Prothane kit).
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 10:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by milk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The '88 CRX LCAs are lighter than the 89-91 LCAs. Bushings were the same size between the two (at least for the Prothane kit).</TD></TR></TABLE>

I find that hard to believe because both are made from cast iron.
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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88 LCA's are stamped steel and not cast...
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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so I should get the ones from the 99 crx?
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Outsane &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">88 LCA's are stamped steel and not cast...</TD></TR></TABLE>

1988 YES are stamped,

1989-1991 are CAST
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -KangaRod- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so I should get the ones from the 99 crx?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just get the ITR ones or 88 crx.
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -KangaRod- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so I should get the ones from the 99 crx?</TD></TR></TABLE>

hah , man I'd love to find a 99' CRX.

new OEM ITR LCA's are around $55 each , FYI.
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doctor CorteZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

hah , man I'd love to find a 99' CRX.

new OEM ITR LCA's are around $55 each , FYI.</TD></TR></TABLE>

$55 and shipping from majestic
http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org

$63 for 88 CRX
http://www.hondaautomotivepart...R+ARM


thats interesting.. I guess the CRX stuff is older so it costs more????
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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Do the ITR ones bolt up though - same struts, hubs and bushings?
Someone said the bushings are different?
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 01:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -KangaRod- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do the ITR ones bolt up though - same struts, hubs and bushings?
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same strut as 88 CRX.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -KangaRod- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Someone said the bushings are different?</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL - yeah , they said they were different sized , what they meant was they are different durometer.
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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you could get blingy and get aftermarket lca's....just a thought if you got $$ to throw around
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 88 rex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you could get blingy and get aftermarket lca's....just a thought if you got $$ to throw around</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't. My insurance company will be paying for it. What does a different durometer mean? The bushings from an Energy Suspension kit wont work? I'll need to get ones for an ITR?
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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bump for some crazy ideas. If I need new control arms and bushings, but not new shocks (I've got blues right now) will the ITR or the 88 crx LCA work? Are they the same? There's gotta be some suspension wizards on here.
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FURBALL B-16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
1988 YES are stamped,

1989-1991 are CAST</TD></TR></TABLE>
So we're in agreement, then?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -KangaRod- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If I need new control arms and bushings, but not new shocks (I've got blues right now) will the ITR or the 88 crx LCA work? Are they the same?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The difference in weight is minimal. Furthermore, the '88 CRX/ITR LCAs will not change your handling characteristics (at least not for the 89-91 Civic/CRX - in my experience).

If you want to use the '88 CRX/ITR LCAs, you must use the rear shock for that application (eye type), instead of the rear shocks for the 89-91 Civic/CRX application (fork type).
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 06:31 PM
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so what it boils down to is, if I'm getting new shocks and new control arms I might as well get the ITR style, where as if I'm only getting new control arms I should get the 89-91 ones?
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -KangaRod- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I spun my car out (90 CRX)...If I need new control arms and bushings, but not new shocks (I've got blues right now)...I should get the 89-91 ones?</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you want to keep your current shocks for your '90 CRX, then yes, get 89-91 LCAs.
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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alright dude, with getting the itr rear lower control arms, you would need to replace your rear shocks with the "eyehole" shocks. If you have taken off your rear shock setup before, the shocks bolt on through the control arm and then bolt back again to the "fork". One the 88's or itr;ss the shock is actually in between the control arm, and the bolt goes through the "eyehole" and then bolt to the control arm. I had to have the itr rear lower control arms for my tein suspension, and the new control arms. The tein suspension is god in the suspension world to me. Throw some suspension techniques sways on it with the tein and with great tires NO ONE can touch you, that i can promise you.

Hope that helps,
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