I have a completley N/A honda civic si 00 and I just blew a hole in my tranny https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=723340 . I planned on turbocharging it pretty soon. But as I walked down to a payphone about half a mile away (my cell had bad reception) I thought to myself imagine if your engine blows. I said fudge this . I respect you guys but boosting a honda is risky if you dont know what your doing . So Im saying bye bye to hondas and moving on to a Factory Turbocharged Mitsubishi , Audi, Or Subaru. Havent made my mind up yet . Damn you FI guys have some ***** to do what you do.

 

If you don't like broken trannies then don't get a turbocharged Subaru. Browse some subi boards to find out why. I would personally go with a turbo Audi, especially the S4. They totally kick everyones *** at auto-xes and they are really nice daily drivers too.

 

I was thinking about a Used S4 . Damn Six Cylinders and Tcharghed..=

 

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That says it all.

 

lear the Heel n toe dude...

How can you do this to a almost stock engine.... Last summer my SOHC was doing 260whp ( D16Z6 ) my transmission have 200 000 km and I did my syncro for the first time after at least 40 000 km with a turbo... but this is normal... my friend had to do his syncro after 100 000 km on his stock Civic ... so it is really normal... Im looking to get around 350 whp next summer...

So begin to learn shifting.... this is not to bitch but you should be more careful when shifting and downshifting....

 

first word is learn sorry loll

 

find out what blew and that could tell you why. i had bad bearings on my old diff and blew it up. diff wobbled, ring gear wobbled, ring gear caught a pin in the casting, chewed up that pin and my ring gear. swapped out for gsr gears, been happier ever since

 

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No offense, but after reading that Im going to have to say that you don't need a turbo car,even a factory turbo car. If your worried about blowing a motor, ect... then you my friend should get a Toyota corolla and call it a day Although an S4 would be really nice to have

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dont be scered i've had 3 turbo charged hondas and none of them has had a built motor and none of them has blown grow some ***** and slap on a turbo!!!!!

 

its known that honda trannies are some of the strongest around. Even Lisa Kubo and Steven Papadakas ran a stock honda tranny. I think Kubo still does but Papadakas stepped up.

SER V-Spec tranny piece of ****.
Eclispses trannies are pieces of **** too.
I've heard not good things about WRX's also

My personal two cents it the si tranny is kinda weak. I have a Turbo GSR motor and no problems what so ever

 

LOL If you get a DSM good luck with that tranny too!!! I replaced 4 this summer at my shop and only one was really a built engine. I have a friend with an S4 making about 450 ftlbs and his tranny went. Had to send it to California (from Maine) because that was the only place there was an Audi authorized tech that could fix it. 8 grand later he's real proud to have an S4

 

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I don't think the Si tranny is any weaker than the GSR. Hopefully someone can back me up.

I am also a huge fan of factory Tcharged.

 

 

sry for stealing the read but can u state some of the strongest trannies honda made because i was wondering if the b17 (92-93 gsr) tranny is strong

 

I think they are all almost the same in term of resistance ... but like I said before the driver... the way he drive can be the reason why a tranny last longer or just broke....

 

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Bullshit. Those things weigh too much to "kick everyones *** at auto-x." They handle decently well, and are very composed at speed, but they are NOT an autocross car.

There also are no VERY fast quarter-mile S4's, I believe the fastest one runs high 11's or something. That's not very promising.

 

Yes there are advantages to the new factory turboed cars, like not having to worry about the turbo being legal especially in Socal, registration (smog tests), technology like awd, traction control, etc. Turbocharging an Acura/Honda is no problem as long as you do your home work. It doesn't cost as much either. How else can you spend 2-3k on a car then drop another 4-6k and have a built turbocharged motor. Compare prices on aftermarket parts for the Hondas vs. Subaru, Audi, etc. Thier's a huge difference. Maybe in the future I'll buy an Evo, S4, or Impreza but right now I can't drop $30k+ on a car or make $600 car payments for 5 years. Even if I get one I'll still have a Honda to play with. Parts are easier to come buy and all the R & D is constantly being done.

 

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******* christ.

Do you know that from personal experience, or is that something you heard from a guy who knows a guy whose girlfriend's brother used to own a GSX?

Some friends of mine have AWD Turbo DSM's, who are still on original 100K+ mile trannies after hundreds of 11 and 12 second passes, and 1.6 second short times.

Put ANY car or transmission in the hands of someone who doesn't know what they are doing, and they'll **** it up.

I see Hondas blow up diffs and axles at the local track all the time, and they aren't even fast cars. However, we all know this is simply because they're dumb, not because Honda trannies and axles are weaksauce. At the same track, guys will make 10 and 11 second passes in DSM's all night without breaking anything.

You find me any tranny that will cope with repeated 400 whp 1.5-1.6s 60' times. That's a lot of load for ANY car.

 

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No offense, but after reading that Im going to have to say that you don't need a turbo car,even a factory turbo car. If your worried about blowing a motor, ect... then you my friend should get a Toyota corolla and call it a day Although an S4 would be really nice to have

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I want to get a factory turboed car because of the warranty on the cars. I could mess something up and bam no charge to me but after the warrantys gone its on me.

 

unless by "mess something up" you mean break something by driving bad, your screw ups will not covered under warranty because engine modifications generally void warranties. so by getting a new car you're just costing yourself more money because there aren't many used or aftermarket replacement parts available to fix what you broke. better off getting at least a couple year old car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kpt4321 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bullshit. Those things weigh too much to "kick everyones *** at auto-x." They handle decently well, and are very composed at speed, but they are NOT an autocross car.

There also are no VERY fast quarter-mile S4's, I believe the fastest one runs high 11's or something. That's not very promising.
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If you think it's bullshit then go race one at an auto-x and tell me how you did! All I know is that I've seen some S4s that could keep up with the 325is, M3, and WRX. That's a pretty fast croud to run with. And as far as there not being any VERY fast quarter-mile S4's, if you had an S4 would you gut it for the track? I don't think so. You'd go and buy something cheap and light and disposable (hmm...a Civic comes to mind...) and gut that so you could keep the S4 as a daily driver. There also aren't many fast Saabs, Alfas, Volvos, Mercedes, BMWs, Lexus, etc at the drag strip. So what is your point exactly?

 

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Then don't get the WRX because they aren't covering their weak trannies under warranty any more because so many people have broken them. At the most, they will fix it the first time and make you sign something that says they are no longer responsible from then on. After that you're screwed and sometimes they'll make it really difficult to get any warranty coverage even the first time. Again, surf the Subi boards for details and proof and don't say I didn't warn you.

 

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******* christ.

Do you know that from personal experience, or is that something you heard from a guy who knows a guy whose girlfriend's brother used to own a GSX?

Some friends of mine have AWD Turbo DSM's, who are still on original 100K+ mile trannies after hundreds of 11 and 12 second passes, and 1.6 second short times.

Put ANY car or transmission in the hands of someone who doesn't know what they are doing, and they'll **** it up.

I see Hondas blow up diffs and axles at the local track all the time, and they aren't even fast cars. However, we all know this is simply because they're dumb, not because Honda trannies and axles are weaksauce. At the same track, guys will make 10 and 11 second passes in DSM's all night without breaking anything.

You find me any tranny that will cope with repeated 400 whp 1.5-1.6s 60' times. That's a lot of load for ANY car.
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Yeah I was gonna hit his post up too. First off there is no VSpec unless you are referring to the GTR...it is a SpecV. Secondly, Nissan was having problems with the first round of trannies as can be expected by a new car in production. I hear the 2003 and beyond trannies are doing very well now. When peopel were gettign their trannies replaced under warranty last year, most of the peopel I talked didnt get the tranny fixed, nissan just used a 2003 tranny

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tjbizzo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And as far as there not being any VERY fast quarter-mile S4's, if you had an S4 would you gut it for the track? I don't think so.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You don't have to gut it to be fast, there are plenty of full weight car running fast times out there.


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My point is that if you want a fast tunable car, none of the aforementioned brands are the way to go.

 

I plan to leave my EVo(thats my #1choice) stock except for new tires, hks dampers, and some more suspension stuff. Even if I mod it I could just take the parts off and put the stock ones on.