Passenger side:


Passenger side with my dad's hand:


Driver's side with my dad's hand:


Now.. It IS sitting on gravel, which adds to the un-evenness, but even on flat ground the effect was similar.. pretty much the same gap between the wheel and fender..

Does that seem high to anyone else? I'm pretty sure that #0106 sat lower with OEM suspension.. Also, these are the shocks and springs that were removed from Smitdog's R with low miles on them a year or so ago.. And his sat lower on the OEM suspension as well.

There is no front sway bar on, but I don't think that would make this dramatic of a difference. Or could it?

Any ideas/theories/suggestions are welcome.. Thanks!

 

I don't own an ITR, but when I put aftermarket suspension on my EJ Coupe, I have the same issue.

 

could also have bent suspension pieces

didn't this car get wrecked?

 

You are at the Paranoia Stage.

We have all been there.

Drive the car around for a while, and then park it on <u>level</u> <u>pavement</u> and measure accurately from the jack points to the ground at all four corners.



It's probably not as bad as you think.

 

this car sit higher than a stock ITR... the front sway bar will not change the height at all... maybe you got LS springs on ? looks like the car were aligned to be 1 inch drop like a stock ITR and now the camber is positive like hell because you got higher springs... my advice

 

I just checked my ITR, I can fit 3 fingers (not the pinky) in the fender gap.

Could be my suspension is 6 years old so it has settled some.

PS - You have painted calipers, remove it ASAP. When I bought my ITR used it had painted calipers and braking at high speeds would shake (like a warped rotor would). I remove the paint and it fixed my shaking high speed braking problem. I guess the paint didn't allow the calipers to operate smoothly.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are at the Paranoia Stage.

We have all been there.

Drive the car around for a while, and then park it on <u>level</u> <u>pavement</u> and measure accurately from the jack points to the ground at all four corners.



It's probably not as bad as you think.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Def. sitting a tad bit high, not too bad, what are you running for suspension?

 

There seems to be a huge gap on your left fender/bumper cover... fix it!

 

Maybe the springs just haven't settled yet.

 

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As he stated above... He is Running Stock USDM ITR Suspension.
It was taken off my 98 itr and at the time only had 26k on the car and they have seen no track days or AutoX's when I bought the car.

This stock setup when in my R was not this high. The front end of Mstewar's #55 was replaced with new frame rails and other parts. No Control Arms or anything looked to be bent. I am not sure why it sits higher but I would not worry about it.

Mark forgot to tell that the car has been aligned and is aligned correctly, hence no bent parts. I would not worry, it will be time for Coilovers in 04' anyway.

 

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It was taken off my 98 itr and at the time only had 26k on the car and they have seen no track days or AutoX's when I bought the car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you store the removed suspension fully assembled, or did you remove the struts from the springs?

If the springs were stored uncompressed, it's going to take quite a while for the ride height to return to normal.

 

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Did you store the removed suspension fully assembled, or did you remove the struts from the springs?

If the springs were stored uncompressed, it's going to take quite a while for the ride height to return to normal.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Springs/Shocks were taken off as one peice and replaced with my Buddy Clubs. So Spring/shock has been stored but always compressed with upper in tact, never taken apart.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Smitdog &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

As he stated above... He is Running Stock USDM ITR Suspension.
It was taken off my 98 itr and at the time only had 26k on the car and they have seen no track days or AutoX's when I bought the car.

This stock setup when in my R was not this high. The front end of Mstewar's #55 was replaced with new frame rails and other parts. No Control Arms or anything looked to be bent. I am not sure why it sits higher but I would not worry about it.

Mark forgot to tell that the car has been aligned and is aligned correctly, hence no bent parts. I would not worry, it will be time for Coilovers in 04' anyway. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yep.. forgot about that part.. it was aligned and had no problems, and is within spec.. I had them set the toe at 1/8" out, but forgot to tell them to set the camber to neutral(so they left it at .5 degree positive, which is within factory spec according to the computer).. i assume that there are no bent suspension components.. it all looked fine and aligned without issue.. also, the entire suspension is not from #55, so it was not involved in an accident to my knowledge..

oh, and the gap between the fender/bumper cover is because I accidentally pushed the little black stiffener piece in when putting the fenderliner in.. I just have to pop it back in place and put the proper bolt/clip in.. good eye, skafia..

i guess I'll have my dad measure from the jackpoints to the ground for me today/tomorrow.. is that the most accurate way to tell, i guess, not by fender gap?

tommygunns, are you serious about the paint on the calipers? What'd you use to strip it off?

 

Are you running the same size wheels and tires that come factory on the ITR...? It looks like maybe your tire's sidewall is a bit smaller than the factory tire it comes with... So with stock suspension, and smaller tires, it would look like it was riding a bit higher... Just a guess...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4U2NV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you running the same size wheels and tires that come factory on the ITR...? It looks like maybe your tire's sidewall is a bit smaller than the factory tire it comes with... So with stock suspension, and smaller tires, it would look like it was riding a bit higher... Just a guess... </TD></TR></TABLE>

That looks like part of it. Those look like 205/50/15 Falkens which I think will create 1/4'' more gap?

 

looks like a lift kit yO!

 

when you installed the front shocks,did they seat all the way down into the forks?
it's easy to have the little slot that seats in the gap of the fork acidentally seat against the top of the fork.this will raise the shock up abot .25"-.5"
chris

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4U2NV &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you running the same size wheels and tires that come factory on the ITR...? It looks like maybe your tire's sidewall is a bit smaller than the factory tire it comes with... So with stock suspension, and smaller tires, it would look like it was riding a bit higher... Just a guess... </TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly, sounds pretty dead on, I always opt for 55 series tires because 50's make it look like an SuV

 

took off my teins and put the stock suspension back in for the winter. (stock ones weren't compressed when stored) noticed the same thing, seemed a lot higher then normal. but maybe i was use to the lowered look. either way, that was a few months ago. i look at it now after it has settled and it seems fine. seens like you're also using 50 series tires, you'll have a bigger gap


Modified by itr707 at 11:51 AM 1/2/2004

 

Maybe you just need to drive it around a little to settle the springs?

 

Mark, if you want to compare yours side-by-side to another stock suspension setup or get original measurements or whatever, let me know.

 

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i would, if the car were in MD.. It's in Illinois for at least the winter..

Yes, those are 205/50/15 azenis on 15x6.5 Rota slipstreams.. So i know that does contribute.. I was still bothered though, because I had the same wheel/tire combo on #106 and it didn't look like this..

The front shocks were mounted into the forks properly.. I put them in myself, so..

As for settling, it could just be a function of time.. I mean, I put 1000 miles on the suspension, so it should've had plenty of driving settling time.. Maybe it just needs to sit on the shocks/springs..

Either way, I'll have my dad measure it tomorrow and post the results.

 

Noticed the other day in your thread. It does look a bit like a dump truck

 

Yes. I just used some paint stripper from the automotive store and a wire brush. Make sure you wash the paint stripper stuff off thoroughly with a hose cause you don't want that stuff to sit on any of the seals or brake hose.

If you haven't felt any vibration at high speed braking (70+ mph) then don't worry about removing it. The guy who used to own my car must of used a spray paint and went nuts on the calipers.

Also, my 3 finger gap on my ITR was with my stock rims with 195/55/15 winter tires.

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tommygunns, are you serious about the paint on the calipers? What'd you use to strip it off?</TD></TR></TABLE>