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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 08:54 AM
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I have a 1996 civic coupe ex but im not sure on what motor to put in it any suggestians? It's between b16 and Gsr

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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 08:57 AM
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If the money is there, go b18c!
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 08:57 AM
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I suggest you search. Other than that, get what you can afford. A GSR is going to be about 1000 bucks more but is a better (stonger) engine stock and has more torque.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 08:58 AM
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poor man's type r is what I'd do. It is cheaper then a type r and got as powerful
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 08:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TylerFlip &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a 1996 civic coupe ex but im not sure on what motor to put in it any suggestians? It's between b16 and Gsr

-thanxs</TD></TR></TABLE>

stupid question.....B18 all the way
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 09:03 AM
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no it's not a stupid questian i have the money but would it be worth it to just dump it all in the gsr or buy the b16 and build it?
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 09:07 AM
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depends on what you plan on doing in the long run with the motor as well, torque for one or top end, gsr will be more expensive to install to start off with since youll need mounts and what not, but it also has more hp and torque, b16 is basically a direct bolt up swap but lags a lil in the bottom end
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 09:09 AM
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search button is helpful, this topic has been covered many times. try buying the GSR and building that...if you dont have the money than i would save up until you can afford exactly what you want to do.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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b18c all the way
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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damn I wish someone would research and find out exactly how many times this EXACT question has been asked since the birth of honda-tech.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 09:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoon063 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">depends on what you plan on doing in the long run with the motor as well, torque for one or top end, gsr will be more expensive to install to start off with since youll need mounts and what not, but it also has more hp and torque, b16 is basically a direct bolt up swap but lags a lil in the bottom end</TD></TR></TABLE>

they both go in exactly the same. b16 mounts will work on a b18 in a 96+ civic.

the b18c is a more fun engine to drive around for every day. it has a lot more low end to it than the b16. id suggest finding a b18c longblock and a type r tranny.
you will be very happy with that set up.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 09:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TylerFlip &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no it's not a stupid questian i have the money but would it be worth it to just dump it all in the gsr or buy the b16 and build it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Get the B18C and build that.
There's no replacement for displacement.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 09:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by monicle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn I wish someone would research and find out exactly how many times this EXACT question has been asked since the birth of honda-tech.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm guessing 1 million but i'll have to check. All the threads end up with people yelling back and forth on b16 sucks and has no TQ and the single cam guys come in and say how they "smoke b16 fools" with their Z6.

Best bet is type in B16 in the search box and look though every single thread. Between all the BS there should be enough real comments and info for you to make a decision on what setup would be good for you.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 10:05 AM
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b16 = will need to be built up to meet the power demands you probably have some say it's a better platform for turbo. it's cheaper.

b18 = immediate satisfaction of power demands. more exspensive, can be turbo'd but not exactly the best platfom.

both require almost the same stuff for install.

I decided to go b18
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 10:13 AM
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listen to somebody that had both....

when i first got my b16a it was fun till you get use to it. but later on i wasnt getting enough power and decided to go Turbo, that was a very awful experience.
Now im running stock b18c1 and very happy with its performance.

b18c1
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 10:15 AM
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b18&gt;b16
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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I love the high redline on my b16, but the 10+ TQ on the b18c1 is nice...

I would go, b16, then 1 grand on a nice *** suspension... Well, decent sus...
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 976 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love the high redline on my b16, but the 10+ TQ on the b18c1 is nice...

I would go, b16, then 1 grand on a nice *** suspension... Well, decent sus... </TD></TR></TABLE>

The B18C1 has the same redline the B16 has.
There is no replacement for displacement.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 10:42 AM
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'96 coupe is a heavy *** car if you dump a b16 with bolt-ons you will be lucky to cut into the 14's. now with a b18 with bolt-ons LOW 14's are possible.

i think the extra $1,000 are worth it. you could allways build a B18 to have more hp & trq then a B16 remember you have a heavy car you need high hp & trq #'s.

good luck with what ever you decide.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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go for the gsr
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 11:05 AM
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Go For the gsr your going too like how the extra 1k you spent into the gsr over the b16 is gonna perform then if ya took the 1k into a b16
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Spade &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The B18C1 has the same redline the B16 has.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, I know, I worded it wrong.
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There is no replacement for displacement.</TD></TR></TABLE>

VTEC.
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 11:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 976 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">VTEC. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ha! Not when the Non-VTEC is larger

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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 11:52 AM
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Man, I had both of them in two different EG's- Honestly my B16 seems more nibble and faster. The GSR was way Torquer (spelling?), but the b16 gets up faster, I think it's the tranny in the b16 is tighter then the gsr tranny -
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 01:11 PM
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Id do B17 GSR with B16 performance! jk
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