Ok I installed my coilovers today and I have a couple of questions.

It was imposible to fit the coilover sleeves over the rubber thing on the front struts. #12 on the picture. The diagram says its a "Rubber"....but what does it do?? Can I just cut it?

 

it looks like it is your bump stop. you can cut it but not too much. the more you cut the less suspensions travel you will have. cut it til it fits..

 

the diagram looks like it has the bump stop and the dust boot together as one, but i assume you mean the dust boot: the cylinderical plastic cover that that fits over the shock body to prevent dirt and grease from getting into the shock. you can cut it if you have to, but cut as little as possible to still retain function.

 

what do you mean suspension travel?? The sleeves wont get through the bump stop AND dust boot. The only way I can see the sleeves to fit is to take #12 completely off


Modified by learningn00bie at 8:08 PM 12/26/2003

 

Lowered cars need bumpstops. If you hit a big bump, there will be nothing to stop the compressing of the shock, and it will damage the shock and make the shock leak afterwards.

 

when you guys are talkin about bump stops, you mean the peachy stuff??

The front and rear shocks on my 6th gen accord looks very different. the two fronts didnt have those peachy stuff (bump stops?) It had the black #12 thing. The #12 on the picture can be bought at about $10 bucks a piece, My friend said I didnt needed the #12 piece so he completely took it off. So I think Im riding on no bumpstops.? Help Please?

 

First, even if you keep a bumpstop in, that's no garauntee that the strut won't blow.

Second, yes the "peachy thing" is your bumpstop. It should look almost like an accordian. It'll have ribs. I dunno how to describe it without a picture damn it, work with me!! (J/K)

Any kind of rubbery, flexible material between the where the shaft goes into the body of the strut and where the retaining washer sits near the top of the shaft is a bumpstop.

For the record, I cut my bumpstop down to 1/4 it's original size when I put my coilovers on. I knew my stuts were gonna blow, that's not why I tried to keep a little bumpstop. If you retain a small peice of the bumpstop, and you accidentally hit a pothole or bump at speed, it won't make a huge bang or metal-to-metal sound.

 

but if you dont have a bumpstop or too small of a bumpstop, if you hit a ditch and your shock would be gone in no time, the valve, piston all destroy.

if you dont cut it, your car would sit funny

 

I took the bumpstops completely off, the sleeves will not fit with the bump stops there (maybe if I shave it down ALOT). Now I feel regrettable. Am I pretty much safe w/o the bumpstops AS LONG I dont bottom out?? I have a set of dropzone coilovers and the instruction told me to remove the bump stops and dust cover and DONT REINSTALL . So I did....and again I feel regrettable....any comments on this particular instruction? Its #4 on the instruction sheet.

http://www.dynamicautodesign.com/coin.htm

This is what dropzone said the coilover should look like when done.



Where is the "bumpstop" on this shock?? (this is how my shocks/coilover looks like right now)

and here is the picture of A bumpstop



Im assaumin the yellow stuff is the bump stuff....so what the hell is the black slingy stuff? My 2 front stock shocks/struts on my 6th accord never had that yellow stuff. Look at diagram above, #12 was the only piece where the bumpstop shouldve been (#12 was a black piece, not a yellow piece). ONLY the 2 rear shock/struts had that yellow stuff but the sleeves fit through them (and I think I may be riding on those bumpstops on the rear, that yellow stuff in the rear shocks is way longer then the one in the picture , is that ok?) I was planning to change my shocks in 3-5 months (of course I have to change it earlier if the stock shocks blow), you think my shock will survive 3-5 months if I dont bottom out THAT MUCH? (w/o the bumpstops)





Modified by learningn00bie at 8:48 AM 12/27/2003

 

this is retarted. OK, here is what I'm saying.

Your struts will not last.

It doesn't matter how low you spin the perches on the sleeve. If you hit a big enough bump, your strut will blow, it always does. So trying to save them is pointless. There may be a few out there that haven't blown their original struts, to those, but be realistic.

 

The "black slingy stuff" is the dust cover for your strut.

 

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Your struts will not last...
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I'll second that, there's no way you can slow down on every bump or pothole, some you just can't see and some you just cant stop, like the one on the freeway.

you can drive slow but one way or other, it's gonna blows, that's why bumpstop is there, is a foolproof type of device.

and removing the dust boot is another no no, take a look at the polished "shaft" now, i dont think it's gonna be smooth anymore.
i dont think any warranty if your shaft is damage.


but look at the bright side, at least it's a stock shocks

on 6th gen(that's what i have too), you have the bumpstop(Yellow spongy stuff) on the one set and you have black hard plastic on the other set, i dont remember which one is which.

you have to trim the bumpstop, if you have a quality spring that come with a instrution(cough, not dropzone, cough) it would show you exactly how much to chop, i know h&r and eibach does, eibach even give you a nice picture for it too.

I am sorry to say, if you just put them on recently, try to see if the shock is leaking or not, if they are still in good condition, put those bumpstop and dustboot back.

cliff note: spring+shock without bumpstop=


Modified by iam7head at 9:17 PM 12/28/2003

 

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I'll second that, there's no way you can slow down on every bump or pothole, some you just can't see and some you just cant stop, like the one on the freeway.

you can drive slow but one way or other, it's gonna blows, that's why bumpstop is there, is a foolproof type of device.

and removing the dust boot is another no no, take a look at the polished "shaft" now, i dont think it's gonna be smooth anymore.
i dont think any warranty if your shaft is damage.


but look at the bright side, at least it's a stock shocks

on 6th gen(that's why i have too), you have the bumpstop(Yellow spongy stuff) on the one set and you have black hard plastic on the other set, i dont remember which one is which.

you have to trim the bumpstop, if you have a quality spring that come with a instrution(cough, not dropzone, cough) it would show you exactly how much to chop, i know h&r and eibach does, eibach even give you a nice picture for it too.

I am sorry to say, if you just put them on recently, try to see if the shock is leaking or not, if they are still in good condition, put those bumpstop and dustboot back.

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just leave out the dust boot and put the trimmed bumpstop (half) on before you put on the aluminum top-hat. its that simple dont make it a big deal.

 

explain me why you want to leave your dustboot out

 

I think the dust boot prevents dust and grime from entering.....ya na? EDIT: I was trying to be sarcastic.

I will third that when I say stock shocks are ok for a while but sooner or later you will have to replace them, and if your removing your bumpstops you better invest $ into a shock company, cuz you will be buying new ones all the DAMN time. Good luck dude

 

well i dont think the stock dustboot will fit with the sleeve in place because the dustboots are not completely rubber. theres actually a metal tube on the upper half of the dustboot that prevents it from fitting over or between the coilover sleeve. am i right?

 

i have never been able to keep front bumpstops on any hondashocks when i go o with aftermarket springs. but i always go with aftermarket new shocks anyway...
and i always leave around half the bumpstop since it is the last "spring" before metal on metal.

 

the funny thing is that i have the same car, i put the dustboot in with eibach with stock shocks and i have h&r with tokico now, the dustboot fits like a dream.
samething to bumpstop.

 

well, you just have coil spring upgrade. he has a coilover upgrade. that is why the dust boot wont fit because the sleeve is in the way. as far as the bumpstops go, there should be no conflict in fitment. just trim them to about half thas all. if hes really concerned about dirt and grime, he can order some dustboot covers from summit.

 

what brand coilovers are they?

 

They are the imfamous M.I.T coilover,
made in taiwan adjustable springs

 

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M.I.T? The school, MIT?
If not, what does M.I.T stand for?

 

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The stunna ghetto style coilovers....aka not the real deal.