Hey,

Well I think I need a bottom end rebuild on my Civic, people that have had this done how much did it run? I have a 89 Civic std. model, thanks!

Simon

 

50 for hone
50 for bottem end gaskets
50 for rings
install free.....

prices can be cheaper depending on where you go to get stuff.

 

You may not even need a hone job. I believe in the Helms manual it says in bold letters do not hone unless obvious scratches are present. I may be wrong, if so someone me.

Vince

 

So I am looking at $100 for rings and bottom end gaskets?

 

Yeah if i'm correct about honing...you should be fine as long as the cylinder walls are smooth. You may want to replace your rod bearings if they are worn as well. You'll have them out when you take the pistons/rods out anyway. I dunno how much they run but probably around 50. Just inspect them...maybe post up a pic so people can evaluate them when you take them out.

Good luck
Vince

 

Ok thanks!

 

Hone it if you replace the piston rings. If you have scoring in the cyls and need to hone it then dont re-use the old rings.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AgentJam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah if i'm correct about honing...you should be fine as long as the cylinder walls are smooth. You may want to replace your rod bearings if they are worn as well. You'll have them out when you take the pistons/rods out anyway. I dunno how much they run but probably around 50. Just inspect them...maybe post up a pic so people can evaluate them when you take them out.

Good luck
Vince</TD></TR></TABLE>

If the cylinder walls are shiney then you definetely need to hone them. If they are scored because the rings are coked into the pistons and aren't free then the pistons them selves will score the cylinder wall. You might be able to get away with a light hone job to reintroduce cross hatching. Cross hatching is there for a reason for lubrication it holds oil in the cylinder walls and lubricates the rings.
Figure $400-500 in parts (rings, seals, head gasket, timing belt, waterpump, and all main and rod bearings) for good quality Honda parts on a reliable rebuild job plus $100+ to get block cleaned, decked if needed and cylinders honed. It's a good idea to have them check for uneven cylinder wall wear if this is the case you are going to have to bore over and get new rings and pistons as well. I would recommend doing this to at the very least a D16A6 motor not really worth it on a D15B1/2 for just a stock rebuild. DX/base model motors are a dime a dozen anyhow most people throw them away and good motors can be had.

 

this is my normal bottom end rebuilt cost

head gasket $55
main rod bearings $45
rod bearings $65
Oil pan gasket $14
Main seals $15
piston rings set $66
engine assembly lube $5
renting the honning and ring compressor $03 (u get it back)
engine degreaser $6
carb choke cleaner( cleans everything) $6
lots of montain dew $4.50

 

i used hastings rings, $47 from my machine shop. i also did a complete engine rebuild on my b17 and bought a rock gasket set from my machine shop for like $120. hone was free for me, normally $6 per cylinder, and the hot tank is about 50. if you are doing a rebuild, you need to hone it. it is absurd to pull the motor apart and not hone it. and do not reuse your old rings! make sure you clean the ring gaps in the pistons and set your gaps right. also replace the timing belt and water pump.

 

unless ur gonna BUILD the bottom end i would up grade motors! Maybe a Y8 you could find one cheap under 400 bucks!

 

god im so glad i have hookups
Hot tank: Free
Bead Blasting: Free
Honing: Free
Boring: $60 if needed
Piston and Rod balancing: free
rod shot peening: $60
head gasket: $22
other gaskets: aroud $50-$70
rings: around $100
bearings: Camp1320's ACL kit, $100 shipped

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UltimX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">50 for hone
50 for bottem end gaskets
50 for rings
install free.....

prices can be cheaper depending on where you go to get stuff.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I could be wrong on this, but when someone says "bottom-end", doesn't that usually mean rod and crank bearings as well as the above.
I always thought it did.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sideout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">god im so glad i have hookups
Hot tank: Free
Bead Blasting: Free
Honing: Free
Boring: $60 if needed
Piston and Rod balancing: free
rod shot peening: $60
head gasket: $22
other gaskets: aroud $50-$70
rings: around $100
bearings: Camp1320's ACL kit, $100 shipped</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok thats nice...but he isnt you, so your prices will be inaccurate for him...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxgator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ok thats nice...but he isnt you, so your prices will be inaccurate for him... </TD></TR></TABLE>
true
i posted the realistic numbers
if i post my hookups....
i pay 30 for a Z6 head gasket, 36 for rings, 35 for rod bearings, 28 for main bearings, 7 for oil pan gasket, etc

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crxgator &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok thats nice...but he isnt you, so your prices will be inaccurate for him... </TD></TR></TABLE>yada yada ok, meet someone who owns a machine shop and make him your friend, then they will be acurate