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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 06:48 AM
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Honda equipped the 97 prelude and the 97 accord with the immobilzer program. We are trying to find a way to remove the ship in the ECU so that the swap will run. Some on posted that You can visit a dealership and have a key made that will work with the ECU if you can show proof it's a legit ecu. I am buddies w/ the guy who sold the ECU out his oen car so we may be able to get a key top match the ACCORD switch , but give off the resistance to start the prelude ECU.......????

SO if we have a 97 accord and are running a 97 prelude ECU we can have the dealership make us a key???? please help, a swap almost completed depends on this!!!
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 08:36 AM
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It might be easier to get a JDM ECU without an immobolizer

just in case the dealership route doesnt work
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 09:05 AM
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the 96 usdm ecu does not have an immobilizer, which allows you to stay obd2.
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 09:16 AM
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Well i just got this ECU and now i am finding out tat it is uselss??? There has to be some way to remove the immobilizer from the motor board to get around it...Please I know someone has info on how I can remove it.........

any one have a 96 h22a ecu for cheap?
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 09:20 AM
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Well just like everyone has stated in the ITR forum....

You are basically asking a question that thieves search the internet to find...

How to remove immobolizer chip = how to steal a valuable car

Im sure if I posted my first response to you in the ITR forum they would delete it

Even if someone knew how....they wouldnt even sell you the info, it's like shooting themselves in the foot (even if I knew I wouldnt tell anyone)
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crafty &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It might be easier to get a JDM ECU without an immobolizer </TD></TR></TABLE>

Or run a chipped p28
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 04:16 PM
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i went through the same thing. The new key method wont work because you dont have the sender module. So scratch that. the 96 is a good idea, but by far your best bet is an obd1 conversion harness, and a 92-95 usdm lude ecu. That way you can later chip or piggyback for programming.
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 07:03 PM
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well just like a "government" to kick you and punish you when you don't see thing their way.... I just wanted some help! Thus the moderators take my avatar, leave me with a jackass one, and take 10% after a year of being a member.... Thanks


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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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send it to http://www.jdmhondaparts.com and they can remove the immobilizer for you. if someone wants to steal a car then all they need to do is have an ECU with it removed and swap them out. its not that hard to think of. if someone wants a car bad enough they will have it
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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there are companies out there that can do it like jdmhondaparts

remember too, that the 97+ have wacky trannys and some have that auto/five speed crap..

personally i would just get the obd2-1 harness and ecu.. cheaper.. better tuning and you wont have to buy it twice.. if you donte ever plan to tune or mod the car your ecu is ok.. but still junk imo
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 10:54 PM
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Jason, I got your call after work, I'm hanging with the kid in the morning, but give me a call. I think I might have a halfassed idea what to swap around. If not have your boy dig up **** to trade if he's short on cash... you know the sort of swill I like to collect to build things out of... I'll do an OBD conversion + ECU for him for next to nothing at this point.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crafty &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well just like everyone has stated in the ITR forum....

You are basically asking a question that thieves search the internet to find...

How to remove immobolizer chip = how to steal a valuable car

Im sure if I posted my first response to you in the ITR forum they would delete it

Even if someone knew how....they wouldnt even sell you the info, it's like shooting themselves in the foot (even if I knew I wouldnt tell anyone)</TD></TR></TABLE>

Let's get this straight the first time around, right off the bat; ITR owners are tards who lack any and all ability to do anything but purchase premade cars and parts, and anyone I've ever met with an ITR engine is a premenstrual cockmistress. Anything spouted out as tech in the ITR forum should be promptly deleted. If I wanted to steal a ****** immobilized P72/P73 I can assure you that I would I start with a $20 DIY OBD jumper and $20 P05 DIY converted to control VTEC.

Your supposition that in-car late-night modification of an immobiliser equipped ECU with the intent of theft is ever going to happen shows how pointless my tax dollars that went to pay for your education were. I suppose I could cut out the P72/P73 immobilizer board with sidecutters - as those ECUs run (w/ CEL) if you do that. BUT, P5M ECUs will not run whatsoever if you try that stunt.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98AccordEX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">send it to http://www.jdmhondaparts.com and they can remove the immobilizer for you. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Really? As of last month Jason "Katman" Kaplan was begging for help removing the immobilizer boards on P5M ECUs on http://www.pgmfi.org. If his (to quote lJoe "locash" Sawyer circa '98-99) "titanium lined *******" has figured out how to do so without sharing said info after everything he's leeched from PGMFI I think I'll make the 3000 mile drive to kick his ***.
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 10:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J. Davis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jason, I got your call after work, I'm hanging with the kid in the morning, but give me a call. I think I might have a halfassed idea what to swap around. If not have your boy dig up **** to trade if he's short on cash... you know the sort of swill I like to collect to build things out of... I'll do an OBD conversion + ECU for him for next to nothing at this point.

Let's get this straight the first time around, right off the bat; ITR owners are tards who lack any and all ability to do anything but purchase premade cars and parts, and anyone I've ever met with an ITR engine is a premenstrual cockmistress. Anything spouted out as tech in the ITR forum should be promptly deleted. If I wanted to steal a ****** immobilized P72/P73 I can assure you that I would I start with a $20 DIY OBD jumper and $20 P05 DIY converted to control VTEC.

Your supposition that in-car late-night modification of an immobiliser equipped ECU with the intent of theft is ever going to happen shows how pointless my tax dollars that went to pay for your education were. I suppose I could cut out the P72/P73 immobilizer board with sidecutters - as those ECUs run (w/ CEL) if you do that. BUT, P5M ECUs will not run whatsoever if you try that stunt.

Really? As of last month Jason "Katman" Kaplan was begging for help removing the immobilizer boards on P5M ECUs on http://www.pgmfi.org. If his (to quote lJoe "locash" Sawyer circa '98-99) "titanium lined *******" has figured out how to do so without sharing said info after everything he's leeched from PGMFI I think I'll make the 3000 mile drive to kick his ***.</TD></TR></TABLE>

HELL YEAH!, My man Joseph don't hold anything back!

Well after looking over the ECU I noticed alot of differences between the ecu's but alotof similaities. Their is a place(HIC1) on both motherboards for the immobilizer chip, of course the Accord is lacking the chip. If you follow alot of the resistors etc (I don;t know **** about circuitry etc ) you will notice some are missing on the accord where as the prelude has them leadking off the back of the MB on the immob chip.... someone with alot of knowledge of motherboards could help...HINT HINT...Jospeh
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 11:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J. Davis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Really? As of last month Jason "Katman" Kaplan was begging for help removing the immobilizer boards on P5M ECUs on http://www.pgmfi.org. If his (to quote lJoe "locash" Sawyer circa '98-99) "titanium lined *******" has figured out how to do so without sharing said info after everything he's leeched from PGMFI I think I'll make the 3000 mile drive to kick his ***.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i havent looked at it for a while. when i was looking at ECU's on there, which was like 3-4 months ago, i saw they had some thing about how to remove the immobilizer. i didnt read any further. so it may not work at all on the ECU hes trying to get around. a guy i know put an H22 into a CRX and had to get around the immobilizer. i'm not sure what all he used. if you want his number leave me a PM and you can call him
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J. Davis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Let's get this straight the first time around, right off the bat; ITR owners are tards who lack any and all ability to do anything but purchase premade cars and parts, and anyone I've ever met with an ITR engine is a premenstrual cockmistress. Anything spouted out as tech in the ITR forum should be promptly deleted. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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this thread is a stupid waste already.

the whole thing about ITR owners is about as truthful as me saying that most accord owners are young kids who have had their car bought for them by mommy and daddy to keep them safe and they are too stupid to plan a swap right and dont have the mechanical ability to do it right even then.
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by v4lu3s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this thread is a stupid waste already.

the whole thing about ITR owners is about as truthful as me saying that most accord owners are young kids who have had their car bought for them by mommy and daddy to keep them safe and they are too stupid to plan a swap right and dont have the mechanical ability to do it right even then.
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well the funny thing is i have 5 or so swaps under my blet right now..but you never ran into to any probelms I am sure...oh wait yout R came with a swap...how original is that..... ?

This place is starting to remind me of a AOL mustand forum....more **** talking and bashing than info
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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wowsers, lol... the love have spread to H-T tonight, hehe

just go to the dealership with your car and get the key/immobilizer programmed....

-Erik &lt;--- who's anti OBD2
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Old Dec 22, 2003 | 07:08 AM
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Wow, thanks for deleting my reply, whomever did so. You could at least have used your mod powers to change my title to "seething jackass" as I requested.

*plonk*
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Old Dec 22, 2003 | 12:51 PM
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why are you surprised?

This is honda (I suck a big fat dick with a type R logo on it) ******* (******* and unlubricated concrete) tech.

The signal to noise ratio of this place for automotive info is up there with Montell...

"That ain't MY ITR's baby daddy!"
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Old Dec 22, 2003 | 02:42 PM
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well just like a "government" to kick you and punish you when you don't see thing their way.... I just wanted some help! Thus the moderators take my avatar, leave me with a jackass one, and take 10% after a year of being a member.... Thanks
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Old Dec 22, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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just so everyone knows it's legit

Thais is what the info is for so everyone knows it;s legit:

H23a bottom end: and helpful hints for us bseries guys like removing the oil control orifice we are moving on to our head installation:
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Old Dec 22, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chrisir19 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> well just like a "government" to kick you and punish you when you don't see thing their way.... I just wanted some help! Thus the moderators take my avatar, leave me with a jackass one, and take 10% after a year of being a member.... Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

Jason's talked to me all of twice in real life. If anyone has a problem with me and my mouth, it shouldn't be taken out on him.
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Old Dec 22, 2003 | 03:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J. Davis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Your supposition that in-car late-night modification of an immobiliser equipped ECU with the intent of theft is ever going to happen shows how pointless my tax dollars that went to pay for your education were. I suppose I could cut out the P72/P73 immobilizer board with sidecutters - as those ECUs run (w/ CEL) if you do that. BUT, P5M ECUs will not run whatsoever if you try that stunt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Your bash at my education really only proves how well you read....i never suggested to tamper with the immobolizer on the spot....but you knew that right?

Because you are God and I am nothing but a worthless waste of tax-dollars
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Old Dec 22, 2003 | 04:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by J. Davis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Let's get this straight the first time around, right off the bat; ITR owners are tards who lack any and all ability to do anything but purchase premade cars and parts, and anyone I've ever met with an ITR engine is a premenstrual cockmistress. Anything spouted out as tech in the ITR forum should be promptly deleted. If I wanted to steal a ****** immobilized P72/P73 I can assure you that I would I start with a $20 DIY OBD jumper and $20 P05 DIY converted to control VTEC.
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this statement just shows how stupid you are. so who cares that ITR owners have the B18C5? thats not the only thing thats different from the GSR or LS. theres a ton of things different on them. in my opinion theyre the smart ones because they dont have to spend extra cash on things to make it faster. how many people do you see changing to 5-lug? a lot. so they spend $1000 to do it while the ITR already has it. it already has the best motor. it has comfortable seats. it doesnt have a sunroof so its lighter. it has better brakes i believe

are Prelude owners the same way? they purchased a car already with a swap in it. how about the Civic SI owners? they have a motor that a lot of people swap

so go back on your cloud that youre floating on
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