well, it's time to get some new rubber on my daily driver.
yes, i've read plenty posts from the search option.
i just need opinions comparing these two alone since they are the only tires i'm considering.

basically, i love the RE010's and they're all i've used so far. i know the performance is awesome, and they were chosen as the stock tires for a reason. the only downfall is the $125 +/- price tag.

i've been considering the Azenis due to the price & just as good or better grip. the only things i don't like are the sloppiness/unresponsiveness on stock wheels everyone mentions and the chance of hydroplaning (i live in FL where the rain comes outta no where)

at first thought, i would get the Azenis, but i remember seeing two totaled R's on HT.com the last couple months, and they had Azenis and were driving in the rain. gave me a bad taste in my mouth.

so, are the RE010's worth almost double the price?
should i just go ahead and get the Azenis, and if i don't like'em just get the RE010 NEXT time?

i drive rather spirited on the road, so i'm concerned the decreased responsiveness of the Azenis on my stock wheels would suck.

thanks y'all!!

 

I'd purchase the Azenis just for dry track driving. Not daily driving.
I'd choose the RE010's over the Azenis for daily driving. Although, they don't last as long as a daily driving tire should do. (10K to 11K miles only)

Note: RE010's are lighter than Azenis. Also, more responsive on stock wheels.

 

Azenis own, and you get to get new tires every 8 months or so....

 

i know you just want to switch tires, but consider wider wheels (lets say 15x7) with s-03's (205/50-15) or better kumho exsta mx (205/50-15) (much less expensive than s-03 and similar performance).. you could have longer tire life, better wet traction.. worked for me..

 

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Why not just run 205/50/15's on the stock wheels?

 

not trying to jack the thread...

i wonder what people think about putting a 205/50/15 tire on a stock wheel used for every day driving.

i dont think the positives would outweigh the negatives in comparison to a 195/55/15 or even 195/50/15

 

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because i don't like to get sloppy feel kinda described in first post.. i've seen much improvement going from 15x6.5 wheels to 15x7 with 205/50 tires.. i wouldn't even try 205 on 15x6.. exception.. i have drag radials on like that.. but its not much of a street tire.

 

Somebody needs to try out the new Eagle F1 GSD3 (or whatever the letter number combo is). Tirerack test it against the SO3 and it beat it pretty much everywhere. It had better lap times and braking in both the dry and wet. It also comes in 195/50 and is only around $88 a tire.

 

Yeah Eagle F1's seem like a good buy, but if you want a cheaper dry weather tire then go for azenis.

 

195/50 RE750 's , 80 a pop at tirerack, they have been AWESOME so far.

 

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I have some Eagle F1 GS (older version) on my daily driver (95 saturn) right now. They're a great tire, and wet traction is outstanding.

 

Ive got azenis on my daily driver... puddles own me!

 

i live in wa and hate the azenis. aren't the RE010's the tire that comes with the car? i have the kumho ecsta 711's for winter and they are great.

edit: BTW, i hate the azenis in the rain. on the dry pavement .

 

if it down pours i wouldnt suggest the AZENIS, maybe some Kumho 712`s siped ?. stock tires are not the greatest in the wet weather either. just pick up some Azenis later for summer, the grip is unbeatable at a unbeatable price.

 

I'm faced with the same dilema. I think I'm going to go with another set of RE010's for a few reasons.
1. Honda worked with Bridgestone to make this size RE010 specifically for the Type-R right?
2. I may not lower my car. If I dont, 205/50's dont look right. Too much wheel gap.
3. The telepathic responce of the car will be lost with 205's
4. I bought the Type-R because its one of the best handling cars in the world. I'm not going to skimp on tires.

 

I have the 205/50/15 Azenis on my OEM ITR wheels and I am very happy with them. Obviously, dry traction is excellent and there's not much more to say about that. On wet roads, I've had no problems at all. The point here is that you should not be driving "spiritedly" while its raining at all with or without Azenis. I live in Puerto Rico and it rains all the time so I know how you feel. So, is the Azenis a "better" performance tire over the Potenza ?? Probably not, but the price difference more than makes up for it. All in all, get the Azenis, drive it like you stole it while its dry, and keep it legal while its wet. You will have no probs at all !! BTW, my Azenis will be a year old in February and still look very driveable, unlike the OEM Potenzas that died in 4 months.

 

IF you like the crisp handling sharp response of the RE010s then don't get the Azenis.
But if money can be played with then try getting Rotas and MXs nice combo for everyday and track events but if you can't then I would stay with the RE010.

 

azenis are ok in the rain, just don't drive stupid fast; i've done hpde with azenis in the rain and they felt good enough. also, i think azenis must be put on a 15x7 wheel to take full advantage of them and eliminate excess squirm. if you stick with oem wheels than stay with a 195/55 tire.

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jond &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm faced with the same dilema. I think I'm going to go with another set of RE010's for a few reasons.
1. Honda worked with Bridgestone to make this size RE010 specifically for the Type-R right?
2. I may not lower my car. If I dont, 205/50's dont look right. Too much wheel gap.
3. The telepathic responce of the car will be lost with 205's
4. I bought the Type-R because its one of the best handling cars in the world. I'm not going to skimp on tires.

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I have the Eagle F1 GS-D3 tires on a 16 x 7 wheel on my ITR. I reviewed my first 1000 miles with them a little while back briefly. They are very quiet and comfortable, great in the rain as well. Their ultimate grip is as high as the 010's if not higher. But they have a softer sidewall and thus their turn in is more vague. Once they warm up you begin to trust the grip will be there and it always is. I just miss that split second when you turn the wheel on the oem tires and you feel that razor sharp turn in. I have used a few Potenza tires now, 010 and 040's. And I dont think anything beats them in terms of responsiveness. They have such sharp turn in. They are loud though, and wear quickly and are ludicrously expensive. I cant really drive the R right now due to winter but come March I will go to Summit Point and see how the tires do. I don't think the people at tire rack ever really evaluate how stiff the tires sidewall is. I think once you start upgrading the suspension and run rates as high as 12k/8k you need above average side wall stiffness to mate well with the new suspension. Perhaps that is why I feel like the sidewall is soft on the Eagle's. I had the potenzas on the car with stock suspension.

 

For a daily driver in Florida (or anywhere it rains much), I would go with the stock RE010. When you consider how long the tires last, they don't cost that much more than the Azenis.

If you lived somewhere it didn't rain much, say, Arizona, then maybe the Azenis.

 

I say go with the RE010, i have Aziens on my daily in Tampa FL,the rain wasnt a big problem at first i wondered why everyone complained so much,now i know why i hate drving them in heavy rain storms.

Steve &lt;---who wants to switch to RE010's soon also .....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For a daily driver in Florida (or anywhere it rains much), I would go with the stock RE010. When you consider how long the tires last, they don't cost that much more than the Azenis.

If you lived somewhere it didn't rain much, say, Arizona, then maybe the Azenis.
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When you consider how long they last? You're definitely not thinking of the RE 010's. Although they DON'T last at all, I would stick w/ RE-010's. They're designed for our stock rims and you will hate the sloppy steering response from 205's. You only live once, why not shell out the extra cash and get what works. Just my .02

 

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Sure I am. I have 20K miles and a couple of track events on my original RE010 tires, and they still have a good amount of tread left. That's great mileage for a high-performance tire like the RE010. (I'm not exactly the gentlest driver in the world either.)

I can only conclude that stories about the RE010 are either exaggerated, or people are doing burnouts on them.