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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 05:53 AM
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when my car is cold it smokes black till it gets warm, then stops. the end result though is black on the bumper. most of it will wash off but there is still a good bit of speckles that wont wash off. how do you guys clean this off? thanks for any help


-chris-- who really hates how fast his CW gets dirty
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 05:57 AM
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I use this on my 98 CW ITR (rear bumper too)...works great.



"This amazing, nonabrasive cleaner safely removes contaminants, light oxidation, light scratches and swirls to restore damaged and dull finishes. This easy to use formula uses advanced technology to prepare all paint finishes for polishing and waxing."
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 06:06 AM
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Clay bar works great for that
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 06:14 AM
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simple green works great on my rear bumper
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 06:18 AM
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does any of that require a good waxing afterwards? cus my friends have told me to use laquer thinner and then just wax it good afterwards as it will dull the clear a little. i need to wax my car anyways. thanks for the help

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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 06:22 AM
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I have the same problem except my bumper is frost white and its a turbo car

Mine would remain stained after a wash, but if you spend a good 5 minutes scrubbing with small towel/rag it will come off. I do it once a week just using regular water/car wash.

Only thing i hate about having a white car
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 06:31 AM
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Always wax after using any type of cleaner, as your clearcoat is exposed to the elements.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 06:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mugen Mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Clay bar works great for that </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 07:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cjames235 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does any of that require a good waxing afterwards?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't think that waxing is required after use of the claybar, but adding a coat of wax will only help the dirt come off easier the next time
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 07:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cjames235 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does any of that require a good waxing afterwards?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes. You don't have to, but you should.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 07:42 AM
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Yeah, clay bar will remove carnuaba based waxes.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 08:25 AM
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and what do yall recommend as a good wax? i need a one-step wax i am not gonna spend all day waxing with 3-4 different stages of waxes,glazes, etc. so what would be good as far as that goes? thanks

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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 08:27 AM
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The amount of time is proportional to the quality. Three step is worth it. There is no all inclusive one bottle of wax that can clean, wax and polish.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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I do about an eight step two times a year.

As far as good carnauba wax for championship white goes this is my favorite by far

Pinnacle natural brilliance paste glaze - about $35


Blitz Wax is also a very good product

For black use the souveran - about $60 but worth every penny

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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 08:33 AM
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Three step isabet.com

w3rd y0. Now I don't have to wash my car for another year. woohoo!
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 08:33 AM
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I normally clean it with a degreaser and apply a good coat of wax afterwards
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 08:49 AM
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why would you want to do that???
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 08:55 AM
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Formula 2001 does the job very well, should you apply a wax after the polish? oops...
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 09:53 AM
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That stuff will usually come off w/ waxing if not break out the claybar (I would wax after using it).
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:13 AM
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Default Re: cleaning black off rear of CW? (cjames235)

Don't waste your time with clay bars - takes too long.

Just get some Mcguair's pre-wax cleaner.

wipe on/wipe off - easy as that

you will need to wax the surface after that though - gets it just as clean as a clay bar if you ask me
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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Default Re: cleaning black off rear of CW? (cjames235)

the Yellow has the same problem, I take some castrol purple degreaser, spray it on then run a spong over it and rinse off. it comes off without even rubbing hard, takes 30 seconds to do the whole back of car and the vertical parts of the wing. Then i wax and move on with life...
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cjames235 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and what do yall recommend as a good wax? i need a one-step wax i am not gonna spend all day waxing with 3-4 different stages of waxes,glazes, etc. so what would be good as far as that goes? thanks

--chris</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Don't waste your time with clay bars - takes too long.
Just get some Mcguair's pre-wax cleaner.
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There is plenty of paint contamination that an abrasive cleaner like meguiars isn't going to remove. Including the black specs that are commonly found on bumpers.

Sometimes I have a hard time removing all of them even with clay.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StyleTEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

There is plenty of paint contamination that an abrasive cleaner like meguiars isn't going to remove. Including the black specs that are commonly found on bumpers.

Sometimes I have a hard time removing all of them even with clay.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You obviously have not used this product and therefore are making false statements about it.

Meguair's is not abrasive - it's more a solvent more than anything. Those black specs just wipe off. Environmental fallout usually contains substances such as oil, tar that will not come off because they are baked/dried onto the paint surface - you are not going to get it off without a solvent.

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Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner
This amazing, nonabrasive cleaner safely removes contaminants, light oxidation, light scratches and swirls to restore damaged and dull finishes. This easy to use formula uses advanced technology to prepare all paint finishes for polishing and waxing



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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 01:40 PM
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I have used the product and it is abrasive, even if it through chemical means and not grit.

non-abrasive is just a detailing buzz word thrown around to make people feel safer about using cleaning products on their car.

It claims to remove oxidation, which is more or less dead oxidized paint. Removing it requires the physical removal of the oxidized paint to expose the fresh healthy paint. You are telling me this simple solvent is enough to disolve the top layer of paint? Obviously this isn't the case, and if it were I wouldn't use it on a car period. It can remove paint because of its abrasive properities.

The products in meguiars red bottles are crappy to say the least. For example, the #2 "Deep crystal polish", is not a polish in any means. It is simply a glaze, which meguiars claims "restores natural oils in the paint".

What meguiars doesn't tell you is your paint has no need for oils to be put in it, nor can your paint magically absorb said oils.
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