Ok easy one first:
When I had my LS suspension was a no brainer. Any mod was going to benefit in some way So, the dillema I face with the R is this is a tuned machine as far as suspension goes. I really want to lower the car, probably about an inch to reduce some of the wheel gap. What I don't want to do is screw up the handling in any way. I previously use H&R Race Springs and Tokico Blues, but I am guessing I would not want to do something like this on a R. So question is, what do I do?

Next... with these couple of bolt ons, can anyone here estimate horsepower both crank and wheels? -> AEM CAI, DC Sports JDM 4-1 Header, Carsound High-Flow Cat, DC Sports Cat-Back Exhaust (60mm). I just want some rough bases #'s to play with without hitting a dyno.

Thanks guys!

 

For suspension, try the Mugen Lowdown? A lot of people have it, it seems to be a popular choice, and pretty mild as far as harshness is concerned.

As far as engine mods...DC Sports exhaust might help you out on an LS but not an R. Do a search...you'll find the N1-style are pretty popular.

But in all honesty, there's really no need to mod the **** out of your car unless you are a serious racer, and even then...

 

Well, I mean I will track it almost certainly. The mods I listed for horsepower #'s are mods I already have. The exhaust I'm sure is on there so when it had nitrous before it was extremely beneficial. But I bought the car like it is.

So, the lowering is for dual purpose, I need better handling, and for looks as well. Mugen does not sound like the way to go for that purpose.


[Modified by HokieITR, 3:38 AM 9/17/2001]

 

Repeat after me:

"The Honda engineers know much more about suspensions than I do. I will not modify my ITR suspension. Lowering for looks is foolish. I will not modify my ITR suspension. My car handles better than I drive already. I will not modify my ITR suspension. Modding my car will lower its resale value. I will not modify my ITR suspension. I can better spend my modding money on driver's schools and track events. I will not modify my ITR suspension."

 

Umm, dude, I think you know that Mugen is basically Honda's in-house after-market parts store. Mugen Low-down gives an ITR a perfect look (.75" drop) and it handles better than stock ITR. Yes, you heard that right... Mugen suspension will make your car handle better.

Basically, the rules of thumbs for modding ITR goes... stick with high-name Japanese companies with proven track record. ITR still can be bettered... but it'll cost you mucho $$$.

HokieITR- save up money and get Mugen low-down suspension $1500. BLing-blING.

 

I respect your opinion but I beg to differ on this particular point. I have previously had two highly modded Honda's and they never saw an autocross course and only saw the 1/4 mile once or twice a year. Modifying a vehicle is purely for the owners enjoyment, not necessarily for track racing. I do personally autocross with my R, I tried it for the 1st time several months ago and do appreciate the handling characteristics of my car now.
Just my 0.2 I had to throw in there.
M

 

It just seems like people are too trigger-happy with modding their Rs. I took mine on a track last weekend and I realized that, just like everyone said, I was hitting my limit before I hit the car's limit. The stock R is good enough for just about any driver. Look at Warren...he is an incredibly fast driver, and the only mods he has are cage, AEM, coilovers, and R-compound tires. I'd put my money on him vs. many drivers of more highly modified Rs.

 

I agree with you Ross. A good driver will beat a fully-tuned car w/ bad driver. However, there are only few of us who can drive like professionals. I know that I'm not one of them. The extra modification is there to save my unskilled *** and allow me to achieve faster times (vs. stock). Comparing huge apples to tiny orange... let's say that ITR can kick some butt against high-profile cars w/ good driver... but a bad driver in Porsche turbo AWD will walk away.

Cliff notes: Good drivers rule.
Bad drivers can act like good drivers w/ proper mods.

 

Man I didn't mean to start a pissing war Let me just say this. I've been in the modding an Integra boat before. I learned a lot in the process. Now I've "graduated" to an R and I'm also graduating that knowledge that I picked up. I have no intentions of "slamming" my R, nor messing with the handling characteristics of it. That being said, I do my homework, and figure out what is not going to hurt me and figure out what will accomplish my end goal and help me in the long run. Now, Realtime R's for example, goooood drivers, dropped as well. So, you can't sit here and convince me stock is absolutely best. On the other hand, you can convince me without good judgement you can turn a great car into an Integra LS 800 bucks later. So far, I'm farely convinced to acheive what I want a set of H&R's and some Koni Yellows will do that. That being said, lets continue this discussion from there