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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 10:31 AM
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just figured I'd share an email I received containing this letter that was posted on a website...

**** THE TERRORISTS!

Hello, Mr. Terrorist.

Guess Who? It's me, the American you're trying to kill.

You don't really know me or anyone like me.
You've probably never been to my country.
You've never been to my state.
You've never been to my town.
You've never seen my house.
You've never met me or seen my family.

However, you hate me - and, you're trying your best to kill me.
And, you're trying to kill my wife.
And, you're trying to kill my children.
And, you're trying to do it because we're American.
And, so far, it's been too easy.

But, Mr. Terrorist, you have a problem.
You see, I work 60 to 80 hours a week to make a living.
And, I work very hard - day in, and day out I work.
And I do this year in, and year out.
Decade, after decade, I work.

And, I'm angry that a big portion of what I make each day goes
to my government.
That's because my money goes to pay for things I don't care about.
However, right now I'm working extra hard for something I really
want. You see, Mr. Terrorist, I'm working hard to kill you.

And, as luck would have it, I've elected people who have the *****
to get it done.
So, take a good look around the cave you're sitting in right now,
because, Mr. Terrorist, you'll not see much more before the lights
go out. And (just so you know), here's how I'll get this done.

First, I'll try for a little while to find you. But, if I don't
find you, who cares?
I'll get bored looking for you and begin to deal with your friends
who have helped you.
You know - the people who provide your money, training areas,
resources, and weapons.

And here's what I'll do to them:
I'll let them know that when they're tired of their ports, power
plants, airports, factories, homes, railroads, bridges, highways,
office buildings, radio stations, and palaces being pulverized to
dust by American weapons, they can give you up and the carnage
will stop.

But until then, they can look forward to having their personal
assets frozen, their products embargoed, their oil wells set
ablaze, and their goods outlawed.
I would bet (snicker) they'll give you up sooner or later (I do
have lots of bombs you know).
Or, better yet, maybe they'll just kill you for me and save me
some money. Either way is fine - I don't really care.

In either case, you have helped me begin the end of your craft
as you know it.
You see, you didn't get to know me before you tried to kill me -
and that was a mistake.
You thought I was decadent, stupid, afraid, and cowardly.
Well, you were wrong, Mr. Terrorist.

You see, I am a small part of 5 billion people in the world who
now want you dead.
And, unfortunately for you, I am not some barefoot, toothless,
and penniless peasant living in some ****-hole corner of the world.
Nor am I one of the illiterate human garbage gleefully dancing
with a burning US flag celebrating your actions.

No, I am the one who is normally tolerant of other cultures,
beliefs, and ideologies.
I am the one who always rescues the world from the tyrant.
I am the one who drives a truck, teaches school, and builds houses.
I am the faceless American sitting in my living room.
And, I am the one who will do my best to ensure that you have
the opportunity very soon to sit in front of Allah for judgment.
(If you don't go to hell first)

Dress for a warm climate, you ******* pigs.


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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 10:41 AM
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damn right!!!
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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 11:13 AM
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Beautiful.
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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 02:38 PM
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Perfect!
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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 02:43 PM
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That's straight up tight.
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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 02:47 PM
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Can I get a "Hell YEAH"
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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 03:01 PM
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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 04:39 PM
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I am sorry to inform you that you are so wrong, I know that you are american and that this might be a hard pill for you to swollow but, the opinions exprested in you letter are dangerously rasict and inflamatory, to go calling ppl iliterate when the comments you have expressed show the same on your part

You clearly don't know why this whole mess happened in the first place, of how the US goverment enlisted afgahny youth in the late 70's to fight againts Russia(COlD WAR), then when Bin Laden, who was there fighting wiht little training and lots of guns, saw his friend being slaughtered, he got pissed and they when the US stoped supporting the Afgahni rebels but left lots of weapons, and civil war broke out(still going on today), a war which has devistated a once beautiful country, Bin Laden got more pissed , so he started his Ghihad (what you don't give a **** what a ghihad is well you should!, becuse that is exacltly what the US is doing know with that song, GOD bless america, saying like God is suporting the future military actions agiants afghanis) Holy war againts the country(US) whom he wittnessed destroy his country.

now the tables are turned and weither or not Osama did this is irellevant becasue I think that he did, and I understand why, BUt buy no means do I support what he did(order the hijakings), but american TV is all full of the sob story's of how the evil terroist(middle eastern ppl) have murdered americans senselessly. my point is that every hour more people die of fucken hunger then all the people on the 3 planes and in the 2 towers the missing Police & FDNY, and in the pentagon, but you americans think that your people's lives are worth more that the lives of ppl in other county who haven't even had the chance to go to school WTF.Why don't we have a day of prayer for them, because they are
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"the illiterate human garbage gleefully dancing"


you can't honestly tell me I am not right, everyone is somebodys child/sibling/parent, and of cousre the loss of life is horrible, but it goes on every day yet we are never exposed to it, it is part of life, and now you want to use this event as an excuse to stir racist emotions toward the middle east, being all patirotic and ****, everyone buying flags at wallmart!, no, no its not going down like that, the amout of time we all spend on the NET, do some research on the complex issues in the middle east to help you better understand what brought about this stiutation, also look up terroism and the reason behind it before saying stupid emotional rants that have no logical base.

What you are saying is that bacause you have suffered and america has experiance loss of life that other country'S innocent citizens should die, you have seen what ppl are going throught and anyone who has a concence would not wish that kind of suffering on anyone,

I know that you are mad, but that is probably what the terrosit had hoped, good for you you are his puppet or in prison term, his "bitch"

I am not afghani, I am just someone who listen to my egypian decenant friend, cry about how ppl were calling her names and issueing death threat because of the way she looks!! ppl like you, lets stop the HATE!!!!!, Unlike what Mr.Idiot Bush says the citizens of a country are not held responsible for the actions of one person,becasue they most likely had nothting to do with it

I don't HATE the terrotists, I hate what they DID, there is a difference


please no close-minded flames I know this week has been hard on most amreicans as TV has been bombarding us(bad pun) with images of monday but lets be logical think, resarch, inquere, question what you are told, but Don't hate.

PEACE
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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 04:43 PM
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To the dude who wrote that ignorant e-mail

I am sorry to inform you that you are so wrong, I know that you are american and that this might be a hard pill for you to swollow but, the opinions exprested in you letter are dangerously rasict and inflamatory,

You clearly don't know why this whole mess happened in the first place, of how the US goverment enlisted afgahny youth in the late 70's to fight againts Russia(COLD WAR), then when Bin Laden, who was there fighting wiht little training and lots of guns, saw bless america, saying like God is suporting the future military actions agiants afhis friend being slaughtered, he got pissed and they when the US stoped supporting the Afgahni rebels but left lots of weapons, and civil war broke out(still going on today), a war which has devistated a once beautiful country, Bin Laden got more pissed , so he started his Ghihad (what you don't give a **** what a ghihad is well you should!, becuse that is exacltly what the US is doing know with that song, GOD bless america,) Holy war againts the country(US) whom he wittnessed destroy his country.

now the tables are turned and weither or not Osama did this is irellevant becasue I think that he did, and I understand why, BUt buy no means do I support what he did(order the hijakings), but american TV is all full of the sob story's of how the evil terroist(middle eastern ppl) have murdered americans senselessly. my point is that every hour more people die of fucken hunger then all the people on the 3 planes and in the 2 towers the missing Police & FDNY, and in the pentagon, but you americans think that your people's lives are worth more that the lives of ppl in other county who haven't even had the chance to go to school WTF.Why don't we have a day of prayer for them, because they are :


(Quote)
"the illiterate human garbage gleefully dancing"


you can't honestly tell me I am not right, everyone is somebodys child/sibling/parent, and of cousre the loss of life is horrible, but it goes on every day yet we are never exposed to it, it is part of life, and now you want to use this event as an excuse to stir racist emotions toward the middle east, being all patirotic and ****, everyone buying flags at wallmart!, no, no its not going down like that, the amout of time we all spend on the NET, do some research on the complex issues in the middle east to help you better understand what brought about this stiutation, also look up terroism and the reason behind it before saying stupid emotional rants that have no logical base.

What you are saying is that bacause you have suffered and america has experiance loss of life that other country'S innocent citizens should die, you have seen what ppl are going throught and anyone who has a concence would not wish that kind of suffering on anyone,

I know that you are mad, but that is probably what the terrosit had hoped, good for you you are his puppet or in prison term, his "bitch"

I am not afghani, I am just someone who listen to my egypian decenant friend, cry about how ppl were calling her names and issueing death threat because of the way she looks!! ppl like you, lets stop the HATE!!!!!, Unlike what Mr.Idiot Bush says the citizens of a country are not held responsible for the actions of one person,becasue they most likely had nothting to do with it

I don't HATE the terrotists, I hate what they DID, there is a difference


please no close-minded flames I know this week has been hard on most amreicans as TV has been bombarding us(bad pun) with images of monday but lets be logical think, resarch, inquere, question what you are told, but Don't hate.

PEACE
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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 04:50 PM
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I am not a racist person, but I really don't give a damn what you think. American citizens died...for what?! What you're saying is that we shouldn't retaliate, right? That's bullshit. Yes, I said it, bullshit!!! Families are now left motherless, fatherless, etc for what? You're such a hypocrite. You just pleaded for everyone to not hate, yet you understand why Bin Laden could do such a thing...because he hates/resents Americans. You're out of line, man. I am sorry that your friend has had to endure the persecution, but by no means do I think the US should "lay down". Retaliation is a must

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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 05:34 PM
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You clearly don't know why this whole mess happened in the first place, of how the US goverment enlisted afgahny youth in the late 70's to fight againts Russia(COlD WAR), then when Bin Laden, who was there fighting wiht little training and lots of guns, saw his friend being slaughtered, he got pissed and they when the US stoped supporting the Afgahni rebels but left lots of weapons, and civil war broke out(still going on today), a war which has devistated a once beautiful country, Bin Laden got more pissed , so he started his Ghihad (what you don't give a **** what a ghihad is well you should!, becuse that is exacltly what the US is doing know with that song, GOD bless america, saying like God is suporting the future military actions agiants afghanis) Holy war againts the country(US) whom he wittnessed destroy his country.
Qikcivic: You seem to know your stuff from what I read of your post. However, one thing I have learned from this whole mess is "What, and who do you believe?". I've heard so many explanations as to why this past weeks tragedic events happened, I dont know what to think or believe. Your viewpoints expressed above are probably the 100th explanation I've heard. The fact is that we are Americans, and we need to have faith in our government and what they have done, and what they will do.

EVERY COUNTRY ON THIS PLANET HAS DONE EVIL THINGS AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER. You cannot deny that fact. I will admit to a limited knowledge of history (something I need to learn more about), but I think that many of the bad things we as a nation have done in the past, was for the greater good. I dont think the US would have so much support if that was not true. Please tell me what good things Bin Laden, or others like him, have done for the world??

It is my opinion that the group of people that attacked NY and Washington are a bunch of religious fanatics. They believe that they must snuf out the evil ways of the west. But wait...we think the same thing about them. I think one major difference here is that we "claim" to be ready to END terrorism, and we seem to have the backing of much of the "civilized world". I think the only people backing the terrorists from this past week, are other religious fanatics with similar beliefs.

I now expect you to disagree with everything I've said, and tell me that I dont know what i'm talking about. You have that right. But the bottom line is that, as Americans, we will not back down to this.

One last thing...where would you rather live, the United States...or the middle east. Its a fair question, whats your answer?
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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 06:27 PM
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You gots a good point soloracer. !!!
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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 06:36 PM
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I agree with the letter, its the damn whiney bitches that complain anytime someone might come off sounding politically incorrect that has led to our generation being docile, well we got the big wake up, all the people who complain that they can't buy a flag because they are all sold out should have bought one years ago like I did and been supporting their country all along! I don't make treats to people hear in the US because of their skin color but i'm not afraid to call those responsible what thye are!
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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 07:14 PM
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I think there is a point where American Pride ends and ignorance begins. Has anyone thought about why this happened? Has anyone thought about the circumstances that led onto the attack of America and the rest of the world? In 1948, the British deceided to try to make an Israeli state out Palestine. Obviously, the Arabs were pissed because their homeland which had been theirs for 1000s of years was taken away. This violence is something they see every single day and it's sad that took the destruction of the WTC to open everyone's eyes. And of course, since the US plays big brother to the entire world, we were the target. If you want more point at and blame, you can blame the British who started this mess and then you can blame the Romans for scattering the Jews all over Europe.

I think that "nuking them" and sending bombs over will just make matters worse. We've all seen how simple it was to attack America from within. The WTC Attack has shown how vulnerable America is. It was ******* scary. Fortunately, nothing really went down here in Boston, but it send a chill though my spine every second I watched the news, since Boston is so close to NY. It happened once and it could happen again. Besides, we're better than that. I think getting Bin Laden's head on a stick would be enough... along with his band of terriorists. I think he should burn in hell for eternity. Please more violence and killing, but if we really need to do it to prove a point, keep it to a minimum.... two wrongs do not make a right.

This anger has got to end. We're better than they are.

I'm not history buff either but this is what I came up with.

Peace.

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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 08:25 PM
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Qikcivic wasn't saying that the US should "lay down". Of course the people who orchestrated in the attack deserve to die. It's just that the US must understand why half the world doesn't like us. Whether it's exploitation of oil or favouring Israel over Palestine or WHATEVER, we must know the other side. Is it that wrong to consider that maybe there's a point to what the terrorists believe in? Maybe everything isn't so black and white. Maybe if the US listened to them before or took heed to the warning signs. Maybe the US is totally right. At the very least try to understand them for our own good. You know what they say: "stay close to your friends and even closer to your enemies". Something like that.

Yes, the WTC was the worst tradgedy we've ever seen this close to home. Yes, the people who did it deserve hell. But there must be a little more to it than just another part of the world being jealous of the US.

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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 09:03 PM
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I'm getting awfully sick of hearing all this bullshit on the web from people saying **** to the tune of "this is what you Americans get because of such and such event from whatever date in the past." You think that some how a group of people are justified in their acts of murder because they had a reason?? Maybe you're not coming right out and saying that all this is justified in any certain words, but I'm ****** tired of people making it out like America had it coming because of something from the past.

Okay, so, some country was fucked in the past, so some people have been oppressed, or driven from their homeland, or maybe some little whiney bitch terrorist leader had his milk spilled 20 years ago, so ******* what? How does all the "you must understand what led to all this" crap add up to 5000+ people dead? Explain that to me. Explain to me why it is wrong for Americans to be angry over 5000 dead. How dare you come up in our face and try to "explain" the motives and history behind why these terrorists did what they did. You think I give a **** about the past that has led up to their actions? Does that change anything now? I care about my fellow Americans who are dead right now. To me, your post is equivalent to someone telling a grieving mother that the reason someone raped and killed her daughter was because the killer themselves was sexually and physically abused, which made them what they were today. Well that's a real shame, but that doesn't make the act that has occurred justified. And even if justification of the events is not your intent, just shut the **** up and let us express our anger and sadness in whatever form we want.

Besides, anyone who reads your post is probably not going to be stimulated enough by your horrible grammar and spelling to go out and try to seek some real truth, when you come off like a 15 yr/old without a spell checker.
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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 09:47 PM
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I'm sorry to point this out when you're emotional but you said "You think that some how a group of people are justified in their acts of murder because they had a reason??" Personally I would justify murdering the people involved with blowing up the WTC. I think that's a pretty good reason.

I know it's a horrible act, and we have every right to be angry, sad, and wanting to kill people, but we have to think before we act. By not trying to understand why something happened you'll never be able to prevent it again. If you blew your engine what would you do? Would you just replace it and keep doing what you were doing before? Or would you consider that maybe it wasn't the best idea to bump the rev limiter in a hard left corner while you're down 2 litres of oil. Maybe you were pushing too much nitrous or boost. Maybe it was just dumb luck. You must diagnose the problem first.

Maybe part of the reason why Qikcivic's post was grammitally bad was because he's from Quebec and maybe English isn't his first language. Possibly.
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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 10:01 PM
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I'm with you on this one, we must find out the reason as to why it happened to fully understand the situation and prevent it from happening again.

And it's sad seeing what "American Pride" can lead to:
http://home-news.excite.com/news/ap/...zona-shootings

Ignorance.






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Old Sep 16, 2001 | 10:45 PM
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So essentially what he is saying is that on some levels... we "had this coming." True, the US basically supported and funded Bin Laden to the end of fighting Russians during the Cold War. Whether we like it or not - the US created Osama Bin Laden. However, that is by no means justification for his crimes, or his group's crimes. It was a time of war... and Bin Laden knew that. You have casualties in a war. We are NOT at war with anyone right now. We were targeted and attacked - it is no more complex than that. The US has shown throught its history that it is ALWAYS the first country to stand up when another is ailing, or needs assistance. Who the **** comes to US when we need it? Huh? Has Af-*******-ghanistan ever sent supplies and money to flood victims or Hurricane victims? Hell ****** no. So now, we get the **** bombed out of us and we're suppose to sit here like "Oh hey, its ok cause we're America - land of the free home of the Brave... it'll go away." Bullshit. I dont want to go to war, but if my country calls me and tells me I have to go away to fight in order to make life more safe in this country, you're goddamned right I've got a light trigger finger and a bad temper.

The Afghani's KNOW what Bin Laden is, and they KNOW what he has done and who he has done it to. You know goddamn good and well that if we harbored a man who carried out the acts Bin Laden has, we would find no sympathy with the rest of the world in expecting an attack. In hiding and keeping him, the pledged their support for his activities. In other words - they have made their bed, now they must sleep in it. And we're going to set it on fire and take a **** on it. This isn't about race, this isn't about creed. Its about a group of people supporting a terrorist, and now they will feel our pain firsthand. I feel no regret and no remorse for any country guilty of such an act. The US is by no means perfect but we are united against those who would do unmitigated harm to us - even if they themselves are Americans. Sure I understand perhaps WHY he did what he did - but he did it and he and all those who helped him are going to face a vengeance they have not yet seen: a fury borne out of anger and contempt.

That being said... it is sad that now Arabic, Indian, and Islamic people are afraid to walk our streets right now. Ignorance is far too common and I'm afraid of the repercussions these racially-motivated events will bring. I can say I am angry at the terrorists but simply because a man, woman, or child is of the same descent does not make them guilty or supportive. I see no one cheering here... just pain. That may be what some other countries are "use to" but that is not the case here. Those other countries dont do **** about it - they haven't the means. We do, and all those who died will not have died in vain. Trust me.

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Old Sep 17, 2001 | 01:42 AM
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speaking of hate, I was driving to a friend's house when I saw a black explorer. On the back window of the explorer was written in white shoe polish "BOMB AFGANISTAN." When is this **** going to stop? You cannot ease suffering and pain by more killing. When is it righteous to kill another? How can we speak of retaliation and revenge when it is against our religous beliefs? I am assuming most us are religous in some sense?
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Old Sep 17, 2001 | 03:54 AM
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Lol...To hell with that.They killed thousands of Americans and now you are getting that ever so popular Christian turn the other cheek attitude.Two words.**** THAT.It isn't being racist ,but the ***-holes responsible for this need to die.I am sick of hearing people saying that killing these people won't help anything.Like hell it won't.If we don't stop them they will kill more of us.How would you feel if that was your mother at work when those building were destroyed?A close girl friend of mine is devastated by the loss of her uncle from this ****.What is fucked is he was the definition of the American dream.He came from **** and was a self made millionaire.I am not religous and If I were I would still say these people need to die.
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Old Sep 17, 2001 | 05:43 AM
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Well said ElectronVTEC.

The comments above have nothing to do with race or racial hate. It is about seeking justice to those who have wronged us, despite what may have or have not happened in the past. And I agree with someone below, it's not about turning the other cheek as so many would suggest, because if we don't stop them (terrorists) now, they will continue to kill until people all over the world feel the terror and are posting messages similar to the one at top. That includes you, quikcivic.

My roommate in fact is half-indian, and he looks of Arabic descent to a lot of people. His skin, his short hair, his go-tee... people can look at him and see hate. He couldn't go to his classes last week because we had reports from other friends on campus that a couple Arab students had gotten beaten up - ******* ignorant rednecks. Don't mistake my comments, I am just as against hate as much as anyone else. But from what has happened, we must find who did this, and make them pay - pay until there is no more to be payed for. Or else, this will just continue.

I am also all for finding out the reasons to why this has happened, but for right now, I say **** the bastards - if we know who they are, then we flatten their ***. If we can prevent it in the future as well by knowing what took place in the past to bring about these events - that is good too, just more to help us keep from making the same mistakes twice. But my post is more about the insensitive post from quikcivic - he couldn't civily explain things, no he had to get under my skin and I'm sure hundreds of other Americans who read that. I frankly enjoyed the first post, it's all about the anger right now. Guess what people, it's okay to be angry, anger is natural, and you'd all feel it too if it hit closer to home to you.

So in conclusion, I agree with many of the posts here, but before we go condeming the words of a rightfully angry person over *extreme* events of destruction and death that have effected us all - think before you go off making accusations of racial hate or other excuses to say we Americans in some way deserved what happened.
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Old Sep 17, 2001 | 06:01 AM
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Very well written.
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Old Sep 17, 2001 | 06:48 AM
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You clearly don't know why this whole mess happened in the first place, of how the US goverment enlisted afgahny youth in the late 70's to fight againts Russia(COLD WAR), then when Bin Laden, who was there fighting wiht little training and lots of guns, saw bless america, saying like God is suporting the future military actions agiants afhis friend being slaughtered, he got pissed and they when the US stoped supporting the Afgahni rebels but left lots of weapons, and civil war broke out(still going on today), a war which has devistated a once beautiful country, Bin Laden got more pissed , so he started his Ghihad (what you don't give a **** what a ghihad is well you should!, becuse that is exacltly what the US is doing know with that song, GOD bless america,) Holy war againts the country(US) whom he wittnessed destroy his country.
OK so let me get this straight. You're saying that he's mad at us for SUPPORTING his fight against Russia when they invaded Afghanistan? We gave them, money, weapons and US troops to train them. Then, after the war, THEY couldn't get along with each other, so instead THEY KILLED EACH OTTHER. Now it's it's our fault they can't get along just because they were using US weapons left over from the war with Russia?

Or maybe their upset because we left afterwards? Geez, every other Arab country gets mad at us for not leaving, and the one case when we do leave them to run thier own lives, they go around killing each other and blame it on us! You can't win for losing...

That's the biggest bunch of crap I've ever hard in my life! They loved getting our weapons when they were using them against the Russians. Do you honestly think they would have given them back if we said "OK, the wars over now children. You need to give those guns back now before you hurt yourselves"? Please... we are not to blame for the actions of the people in that country, no matter how you go about it. The fact is that they are crazy ultra right wing religious fanatics who are giving the whole Muslim world a bad name.

you can't honestly tell me I am not right, everyone is somebodys child/sibling/parent, and of cousre the loss of life is horrible, but it goes on every day yet we are never exposed to it, it is part of life, and now you want to use this event as an excuse to stir racist emotions toward the middle east, being all patirotic and ****, everyone buying flags at wallmart!, no, no its not going down like that, the amout of time we all spend on the NET, do some research on the complex issues in the middle east to help you better understand what brought about this stiutation, also look up terroism and the reason behind it before saying stupid emotional rants that have no logical base.
You are NOT right.

You just assume that anyone who sees a need to retaliate here as a bigot who hates all Arabs. That's simply not the case.

We need to do something for the very simple reason of self-defense. Anyone who knows anything about fighting (whether it's a fistfight n the street or a World War doesn't matter) knows that the best defense is a good offense. You take the fight to the enemy, in his house and streets. If the fighting is going on in his neighborhood, that meas it's not happening here, therefore no need to have a rigorous defense. Think of it this way, you're in an arguement with a man at a bar. You know it's going to turn into a fight. You have two choices, you can either let him take the first swing and probably get your *** beat or you can hi him first and win the fight before it even starts. If you wait for him, you're an idiot.

I am not afghani, I am just someone who listen to my egypian decenant friend, cry about how ppl were calling her names and issueing death threat because of the way she looks!! ppl like you, lets stop the HATE!!!!!, Unlike what Mr.Idiot Bush says the citizens of a country are not held responsible for the actions of one person,becasue they most likely had nothting to do with it
They DO need to be held accountable for his actions if they protect him after what he did! Are you so dumb that you can't see that? Terrorists operating out of Afghanistan attacked our country, the governement of that nation protects and supports the people who did it! How can we not hold them responsible? I know for a fact that if some right wing Christian from the US went over there and bombed 5000 people to death we would hand him over in a heartbeat. That's the difference, it's simple and obvious.

If the people of Afghanistan don't support the Taliban or Bin Laden they can revolt. We would be glad to help. If they decide to go and support them and then find themselves killed in a battle, oh well. They made a decision to be our enemies. No one here is calling for a carpet bombing of civilian areas (at least no one with any rational thought patterns including our leaders). We don't want to kill thousands of women and children. Having said that though, some will probably die if we attack. Trust me there's nothing "surgical" about a bomb no matter what they tell you. Should we let those lives keep us from protecting ourselves though? I say no, we have to put our own safety ahead of thiers, that's simple logic.

In closing I'd just like to say this. Take it any way you want, as it is intended as an insult. You seem to me like the kind of person who would let a stranger smack yor wife in a public place and not do anything about it. I can see you now sitting there asking her what she did to **** him off instead. Sad...


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Old Sep 17, 2001 | 06:55 AM
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I am glad that ppl heve been thinking this over, maybe I didn't state this clear enought that I belive that for every crime there should be a punishment, however the like it or not the ppl responsible are dead... and it hard to punish them, so everyone is frustrated and want to hold everyone responsible. That is why we have seen these outpooring of hate toward america-arab, and easst-idians. OS I think we should look long and hard and realise that instead of rushing into a costly war we should examine how to avoid another strike like this.

It like a boxing match, you get a swing to the face, you fall you get up at 7seconds, now, you have a decision, you are weak you can't see straigh, do you swing as hard as you can and hope your opponent hits the ground and dosen't get up, (howver considering your condition there is no gerentie that you will hit him) or do you concentrate all of you effort to making sure that next time he swing you are ready and rock him so hard his sweat splashed into the crowd.... and you win the round,and unltimately the match
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