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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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Default clutch problem, dont think my clutch is disengaging.

every thing was fine with the car until I let it sit for a month while it got painted. well I went to move the car into reverse after it got painted it ground reverse and would not go into 1-5 at all. If I forced into 1st the car would stall and shut off. The transmission will go smothly into every gear if the car is off. So I put the car in gear with it shut off and tried to start it. when I started it up the car would buck forward and stall. anyone ran into this before? Oh yeah I have a "mystery" race clutch (cm, centerforce, ect) don't know and lightned flywheel. thanks
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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What car is it?

Is it a cable tranny? Cable could be overtightened.

Is it a hydro tranny? Could be loose flywheel bolts.

more info needed to help answer it better. :]
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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it is a cable j1 tranny. theclutch cable was fine before, but we did adjust the cable all the way up .
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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Where are you measuring the disengagement point? On the pedal itself or the release arm?
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 03:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by haku-jitodai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where are you measuring the disengagement point? On the pedal itself or the release arm?</TD></TR></TABLE>


well both places with the pedal adjusted all the way up, with the clutch pedal pressed all the way down the arm on the trans was as far up as it would go.
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 05:08 AM
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(did you change the throwout bearing, when you changed the clutch? if
you did, you installed it wrong!)

The clutch has been in the car for about 2 years now with no problems.
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 06:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dpine &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(did you change the throwout bearing, when you changed the clutch? if
you did, you installed it wrong!)

The clutch has been in the car for about 2 years now with no problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i figured that after i read the post the 2nd time, that's why i deleted my comment! i would play around adjusting the cable, i had that happened to me after doing a cluth job. the car would not go in gear when the engine was on, but i gave the cable some slack and it fixed the problem. have someone look to see if, when you push the clutch in if the arm on the tranny moves! good luck!
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 08:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smokey2.0 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
have someone look to see if, when you push the clutch in if the arm on the tranny moves! good luck!</TD></TR></TABLE>


done that the arm goes all the way up with the clutch peddle to the floor. I dont want to but I guess I'm going to have to take the trans off. is it a bitch to take out of a b16 crx. we put the motor/trans in the car all together at once. thanks for your help anyways.
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 08:41 AM
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i just remember this happening to some one i know, the car would not want to go in gear and in first it would buck forward. i took the tranny off, pulled out the clutch and found out that one of the springs was damaged! the piece of spring or clutch material, was getting stuck between the clutch and the PP. once i changed the clutch, it was all good!
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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knowing my luck thats probibly it. what clutch was you friend using? I guess I'm going to need a clutch what will handle 200+ hp. have any suggestions?
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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he actually had a stock acura clutch, but on the high HP clutches the springs tent to break!
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 09:49 AM
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interesting, does clutch abuse cause this or can it "just happen"? trying to figure out of the person that had my car for a month while painting it had a little to much fun with it.
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 11:06 AM
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it can certainly happen from abuse, that's where i have heard of it breaking in hondas that drag race! it sounds like someone at that paint shop, was having too much fun with your car!
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Old Nov 28, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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thanks.
I will try to post an update tonight. hopefully I will try to take the tranny out tonight.
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 02:21 PM
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update: well last night we pulled the tranny out ot find that the clutch was stuck together. after taking the clutch off we looked at the fly wheel. one of the bolts that hold the flywheel on the crank had about 1 turn to go before it fell out and all but 2 bolts were only hand tight. so here is the damage. 1 cm flywheel(loose bolts wounded out the holes badly), 1 clutch (2 out of the 3 rivits that connect the 2 peices that make up the pressure plate where gone. so know I am a little weery of putting another lightened fly wheel in. also the mystery clutch was a cm 6puck disk and a honda p72 pressure plate. I can take some pics if anyone wants to see.
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dpine &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> after taking the clutch off we looked at the fly wheel. one of the bolts that hold the flywheel on the crank had about 1 turn to go before it fell out and all but 2 bolts were only hand tight. so here is the damage. 1 cm flywheel(loose bolts wounded out the holes badly), 1 clutch (2 out of the 3 rivits that connect the 2 peices that make up the pressure plate where gone. so know I am a little weery of putting another lightened fly wheel in. also the mystery clutch was a cm 6puck disk and a honda p72 pressure plate. I can take some pics if anyone wants to see.</TD></TR></TABLE>
don't blame the lighten fly wheel, i have a fidandaza(7 or 8LBS i can't remember). i too broke a p72 pressure plate, as well as an aftermarket P/P. from what i have learned/found out, you will break the rivets on the P/P if you miss a gear or downshift at high rpm. eventhough i broke two pressure plates, i have yet to have any flywheel bolts back out on me ( knock on wood). if i where you, i would bring my car back to the shop and have them pay for the repairs. good luck
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 11:45 AM
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UPDATE: well last night I was informed by a friend that my car was driven the **** out of about 5 or 6 times. IT seems he took everyone and thier mom for a ride in my car. The bitch of the whole matter is the place isn't even a shop it a garge at someones house. So I can't really su them. I guess you can't trust anyone these days. well I have contacted the ******* and his friend that painted the car. soposedly they are going to give me some money but we will see. the guy could not even give me a reason why he took my car out. He's on H-T but don't know his screen name. he even accused my friend of screwing up the clutch when he was trying to fix it. I guess you live and learn.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 12:12 PM
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that sucks, i hope you fix that problem soon! good luck
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