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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 04:01 AM
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Ok, here's my situation...I already have the climate control installed in my ex coupe, everything is in working order except the rear window defrost switch. The female end thats on my car will not match up with the male end on the new switch. The two ends are completely different. I am assuming that this is because this control was designed for a ctr hatch and I am installing it in my coupe. Can someone verify this? If so, where can i buy the necessary parts to complete my conversion? Has anyone else done this converison to his or her coupe? Was this straight up plug and play for you EK owners? Every bit of help that I can get is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, -Vic

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USDM EX end:

Here's a pic installed just for ***** and giggles:
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Old Nov 22, 2003 | 08:25 PM
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TTT...Damn this board moves fast....38 views and no replies...Can someone help me out?
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 02:02 PM
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TTT..I know someone on this board has to have a climate control like this...
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Old Nov 23, 2003 | 11:10 PM
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Up to the Tizzle.
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 12:24 AM
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why dont you just replace the jdm defrost switch with the usdm one simple as that man
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 04:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allmotorEG6civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why dont you just replace the jdm defrost switch with the usdm one simple as that man</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wish it was that simple, but there's one problem, bro...the placement of the USDM & JDM switches for the hazards & defrost are placed differently in the JDM control...USDM hazard is replaced with the JDM defrost & vice versa with the USDM defrost....You, know since a CTR is RHD (it all makes sense). Also, for some reason, the USDM switches do not line up perfectly onto the JDM climate control...theres a nasty *** gap (even if they did...they wont light up amber y0!)
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 05:17 AM
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well, the worst thing that can happen is that you will have to do it manually, by that, i mean strip 5 of the wires, make a connector for them, and connect each wire to the JDM defrost button. sorry if i'm not clear enough, but hope u find a better way
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 05:20 AM
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can you get a jdm harness for it? The wire color will probably match up with the USDM one...
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 05:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b00st &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, the worst thing that can happen is that you will have to do it manually, by that, i mean strip 5 of the wires, make a connector for them, and connect each wire to the JDM defrost button. sorry if i'm not clear enough, but hope u find a better way </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea, I was thinking about doing it that way, but it seems like it is very time consuming....I will probably end up doing this if i can get no other suggestions or tips.
Thanks, -Vic
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 05:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jolt-tsp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">can you get a jdm harness for it? The wire color will probably match up with the USDM one...</TD></TR></TABLE>

That sounds like it should get the job done...Now the problem is, where will i be able to find one? I was wondering if the 96-00 USDM hatches have the same harness as the JDM one...I would think that they would be. It would be much easier finding a USDM harness than a JDM one IMO. Can someone who wons an EK hatch verify this for me?
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 07:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1993sir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">take the switch apart both of them, and swap out the amber shading into the usdm switch and you will get your amber glow that you are dying for?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Easier said than done...would you care to give me an explanation as to how I would do this? Even if I would do this succesfully, the USDM one would not fit into the JDM control because, as i stated earlier, the hazard & defrost swithes are placed differently in the JDM one:
USDM: hazard switch on left & window defrost switch on right
JDM: window defrost switch on left & hazard switch on right

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USDM:

JDM:

Sorry for the picture quality.

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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 07:19 AM
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Ya, I've tried to take mine apart, it's a pain. Don't see how to do it without breaking something. Don't have an EK or I'd verify for you...
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 07:45 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jolt-tsp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ya, I've tried to take mine apart, it's a pain. Don't see how to do it without breaking something. Don't have an EK or I'd verify for you...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats what I thought, the switch looks pretty solid. I dont think it is possible to take it apart either. But yea, I hope I can get an answer about the EK hatch harness...Thanks for looking out bro, I appreciate that you would take the time to help me out (even tho u dont have an EK)..thats cool in my book. -Vic
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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just cut your oem one and match it with the ctr one...
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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TTT. Can anyone with a 96-98 EK please take a couple of minutes of their time and check their rear window defrost harness for me?
Thanks again, -Vic
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 09:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C1_Civic_EX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">TTT. Can anyone with a 96-98 EK please take a couple of minutes of their time and check their rear window defrost harness for me?
Thanks again, -Vic</TD></TR></TABLE>

are you asking if the coupe and hatch have same plugs? if that's what you're asking, they do. 96-00 coupe and hatch dashboards are interchangeable (sedan too probably).
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 09:35 PM
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Is it entirely necessary to have the JDM layout for the defroster and hazard?

why not just put your stock switches back on.
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 09:40 PM
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wow that looks nice!
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 10:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicdxtyper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

are you asking if the coupe and hatch have same plugs? if that's what you're asking, they do. 96-00 coupe and hatch dashboards are interchangeable (sedan too probably).</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks for the info. Yes, that is what I am trying to find out. I just was not sure if the harnesses were different from hatch to coupe.
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 10:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tonyXcom &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it entirely necessary to have the JDM layout for the defroster and hazard?

why not just put your stock switches back on.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It is entirely necessary to use the JDM switched because they switches are shaped slightly different that the USDM ones and will not align correctly in the JDM climate control.
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 10:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fake mugen power &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow that looks nice! </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks.

OK guys, I guess I am going to have to wire the JDM switch manually without a harness since it seems like a JDM harness will be hard to come by. Thanks alot for your inputs and help. Now it's time to go and play with a soldering gun, some wires and connectors...wish me luck..lol. I will keep you guys updated on how it turns out and will post some nice pics of some night time shots of the amber lighting once its done. JDM blinging, baby.
Thanks, -Vic
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Old Nov 24, 2003 | 11:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C1_Civic_EX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I wish it was that simple, but there's one problem, bro...the placement of the USDM & JDM switches for the hazards & defrost are placed differently in the JDM control...USDM hazard is replaced with the JDM defrost & vice versa with the USDM defrost....You, know since a CTR is RHD (it all makes sense). Also, for some reason, the USDM switches do not line up perfectly onto the JDM climate control...theres a nasty *** gap (even if they did...they wont light up amber y0!) </TD></TR></TABLE>

man that suck
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