anyone besides mugen make a twin loop muffler that is 2.5 in diameter and is good quality...i do not want some cheap *** thing that will rust in about a year...something stainless and quality

 

i believe mugen is actually 2.333(i think) in diameter - I have one and love it - but if I could do it over again I would go Hitech (which is 2.5) and slightly cheaper than mugen I believe (same style twin loop)- I would NOT go for that turbo (mugen style) I've seen on ebay


[Modified by 2000-4DRGSR, 7:50 AM 9/12/2001]

 

you know where to get a hitech one at and does anyone else have this muffler...is it good quality and how is it in sound comparison


[Modified by sicilian2k1, 10:55 AM 9/12/2001]

 

Quality is A+++++, sound is very similar from what I've heard - there may bre quite a wait for it, since (I believe) they are not mass produced - go here http://www.hytechexhaust.com/

 

I believe someone in the ITR forum has the Hytech(same as Hitech) header (around 1300.00 and twin loop exhaust) use search function - specify ITR forum

 

Go to http://www.konigwheels.com They have this copy of the twin loop. It's called the Mozart Evolution

 

Why twinloop? Your choices are then so limited.

I assume its for noise reasons, so why not an Apexi RS or WS, or RS*R? DC makes a twin loop, you could just mate that up to 2.5" piping.

 

i know that DC makes one also for the civic...

 

How about these:







Take a look at the piping:


John is still working on the final production pieces...just spoke to him on Monday afternoon. Final price has yet to be determined.

How about a picture of the collector:



[Modified by Austin, 11:19 AM 9/12/2001]

 

Why is your tire on backwards?

 

If you're talking about the Kumho...the tire shop screwed up, if you're talking about the Falken, that's the way that they are supposed to be. This is not my car...it is vagoITR, though I do have the HyTech header installed on my car and I am eagerly awaiting the finished product from John.
Austin

 

absolutely beautiful - I almost think it looks better than the mugen (drool)

 

Where can I get one? How much?

 

HyTech the header is $1300, the exhaust system(catexhaust tip) is still in the final prototype stage...pricing yet to be determined.


[Modified by Austin, 12:26 PM 9/12/2001]

 

definatly keep us updated on that thing.

 

what do the twin loops sound like, are they loud or quit like the apexi ws?

 

why not? what's wrong with that?

 

whats - wrong with them is i believe that they are not close to the quality of mugen or hytech - and that they are axle back - your stock mid pipe will kill any HP gains unless you get a larger diameter pipe custon mide pipe that has mandrel bends - I not trying to preach mugen or Hytech but their exhaust are very good exhaust with a twin loop muffler - yes it is quiter and mine seems to add a sound that ONLY amplies the sound of the engine and on WOT or in VTEC and has a slightly deeper tone(actually above 4000 rpm in my car) I would apprieciate any owners of a mugen or hytech exhaust to express their opions on the sound.


[Modified by 2000-4DRGSR, 6:16 PM 9/12/2001]

 

i just got the Mozart axle back muffler deliverd to me today. it was MUCH cheaper than hytech or mugen that's for sure. it's 2.5" all around and the qualitly looks good. granted it's not a work of art like thhe mugen or hytech but it does look good, better than most other exhausts i have seen before and it fully stainless steel inside and out. i plan to have a custom 2.5" mandrel bent B-pipe made up at the same time i install the muffler. i'll keep everyone posted on how it is.

personally spending $1000+ on a exhaust is a little considering the power to cost factor.

 

I know nothing about exhausts, but what does a twin loop do better than other exhausts? What makes it special?

 

its quieter...

 

....and does not restrict the flow of exhaust fumes!!

Most exhaust systems, either give -

* High performance/flow....but noisy (not everyone wants the added noise, I don't!).
* Low noise....but reduced performance/flow.

Twin loop gives you both high performance/flow and lower noise!!

Refer to the Mugen description of their 'Sports Exhaust System' - http://www.kingmotorsports.com/produ...gra/engine.asp

Hope this helps?


[Modified by Aussie_ITR-0239, 3:17 PM 9/13/2001]

 

damn that looksw swttw cant wait to hear what i tsounds like and what it goes for

 

talked to hytech and they said it would be available in another month...the estimated price is between 300 and 400.00 for the muffler...the entire cat back systm is going to be about 800.00

 

$1300 for a B-series header? That's a pretty penny but I'm sure it's well worth it. You think they would make the twin loop cat-back exhaust in a 3" diameter piping? I would want that since I plan on dropping a turbo in my hybrid soon.