Search and no luck. And no luck in the Hybrid forum.

I just sold my EH and need a new ride. Found a 89 Prelude Si, 4ws, ya ya ya, etc. for cheap.

And as we all know B20A and B21A motors aren't the best. So I'd like to toss it, before it gets a chance to break. This car only has 71k, but it's still a B20A5, so out it would go.

To clarify....is it true that these 3rd Gen Lude mounts are different that our B16/B18 mounts? I was once told you could only swap a non-VTEC motor into this chassis....being a B18A/B....for choice of a strong motor.

Any H22A kits out there? I can't find anything for Preludes online. A few H22A's for 90+ Accords, and thats about all I get with a search.

Really, any swap that is out there for this car would be great news to me.....B, D, F, or H.

Thanks guys.

 

the B20A5 isnt as bad as you say.

the B21 is the one with the oil burning problem. but the B20A5 is a strong motor with decent potential, the same as any other motor if you build it.

there is a guy who posted pics of his Boosted 3rd gen in the pics link above. and another who posted a vid of his boosted 3rd gen in the forced induction forum.

and there is a H22 swap kit, you apparently didnt look hard enough.

check
http://www.preludepower.com
http://www.3rdgenprelude.com

the mounts are different from the newer bseries, because the motor leans backwards unlike the newer Bseries motors. and mounting one of those would take a lot of custom work which isnt worth the money you are going to put into. the best choice of course is the H22, but look into it first.
a friend of mine is getting more and better mounts made as there are some faults with the currents mounts made by PRI.

 

not a whole lot of options on 3rd gens. B20A5, B21, or h22 with alot of custom work (the headers or exhuast tend to scrap)..good luck

 

get a jdm b20a with 160hp

 

They make a kit for your car too, so you can stuff any B-series in it. Their is a 1986 Prelude where I live with a B-16....So much better looking and a hell of a lot quicker than stock.

 

isnt a 86 2nd gen? i know of a white one with a b16, it beats base 5th gen 5speed ludes.

http://www.overboost.com/obs/product.asp?pid=21071

theres a link to 3rd gen h22 engine mounts, you could probably get it for cheeper.

http://www.preludepower.com/ph...15251
and that link is a h22 swap write up from preludepower.com

 

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i want to know where this kit is, because there are a **** load of people who would rather swap that than the hassle of an H22. and the 1986 prelude is a 2nd gen, and the white one ( which the guy either sold or is selling ) went through a **** load of custom work to get that B16 mounted in there. i believe he had to take off the entire front end of the car and modify how the radiator sits in the engine bay.


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that motor that you are reffering to came out of an accord, not a prelude, and is not the JDM B20A, the JDM B20A has 145hp.


also, the place racing mount for the H22 are fucked up, the motor sits too far to the drivers side i believe, and the only way they will fix it is if someone bring an H22 mounted in a 3rd gen so they can see the problem, but if its mounted in the 3rd gen then there really is no problem is there. my buddy who looked into it said that the guy who was designing the mounts got fired for something and they had someone else finish the project. which screwed it all up and he is now trying to get someone else to fabricate mounts that will work.

 

I was looking at HASport for a mount kit cause of reputation and quality. Never heard of PRI.

As far as a 2nd Gen Lude/B16. I don't know who make the kit, but I've seen it in person. If anyone here is from the Puget Sound area (Seattle/Bellevue/Tacoma, WA) it was a 87 Prelude with a Invader style body kit painted electric blue.


Modified by D16Z6racing at 3:14 AM 11/16/2003

 

There was a b20a in the 2g Lude but its 160ps. Not 160hp.

Unless you want the h22, theres no mounts for different engines out there. You'll either have to make your own or be happy with the h22, b20, or b21. And so you know, the weight bias with the h22 will be about 70/30.

 

I'd say keep the B20a5. You won't burn oil like the B21a, and unless this car is REALLY cheap, it's not worth the money and hassle to try and swap in an H22a.

 

you shouldnt burn oil at all if the motor was taken care of.

if its not, spend the money rebuilding the motor and replacing all seals and what not.

its a good reliable motor, and with the rights mods can perform quite nicely

 

160ps=appr 158hp
sorry for getting the hp and ps mixed up since it is such a huge diff
and yes there was such ana engine from preludes though i diid not realize it was a 2nd gen only engine, i would figure that woul dbe a pretty damn close swap...and a lOT closer than an later B series or h series.

 

From what I've discussed with the Accord boys and JDMET2, the 160ps b20a is different enough to not justify the hassle. You'd have to make the mounts from scratch for it so you may as well make the mounts to swap in a b18c or b16.

On top of that, I think Honda was fudging their power ratings for the 2g b20a. I haven't seen dynos for it so I can't say for sure. But everything seems to be the same. Compression, ecu, intake mani, fuel, and ignition. I'd look it up again but my puters on the blink and won't let me on to honda.jp's site at the moment.

 

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Hell yeah! I'm hoping the B20 is fine, cause I just took all the info given here.....and a H22 swap is pricey! I was thinking, prelude-to-prelude work, wouldn't be a bad price. It's even cheaper to just rebuild a B20, then getting a complete swap w/ everything needed to do the swap.

I'm not concered about having the fastest car, just reliable. I from what I knew before hand was, H22A , B20A . But if the stock motor isn't as bad, I'll keep it.

Thanks for clearing up the difference in a B20A to B21A. Trying to expand my "Honda @ Soul" with a Prelude....and out with the Civic/Integra. Already had my fun there.

 

i have done thw h22 swap on my 88 and sugest it to any one else place mounts 550.
axles 250. wire harness im not sure i did my own almost a easy swap thats if you know
what your doing