OK this is my first post so here it goes. I recently bought a 95 SE Special edition, does anyone know the HP on this motor. I can totally beat 2000 civic Si is this normal with the H23A1. to my understanding they are only suppose to have 160 hp stock and that is what mine is. Also i met a guy that said mine was much louder than his was stock. and no im not retarded the whole exhuast system is stock. any ideas. it came with the top of the line compuserve alarm and i fond wiring for a amp and subs but that is it. there is also a little sticker on the bak that says TD sports does any one know what this is. Thank you for reading this and please if you can reply...

 

Yes, the 4th gen Prelude Si/SE is 160HP just like the Civic Si, but there's a big difference...Torque & power-bands...The civic makes it's power up high & has a peaky power band and little torque......The prelude H23A makes more power down low & has a more usable power curve. The only drawback is that the H23 doesn't make any power up high. That is why the Prelude Si/SE can eat up civic si's for breakfast.....

 

i also forgot to mention i can beat v-tech ludes also

 

I'd watch who you say that to... .... There are factory freak cars & also bad drivers out there, but the Si manual can really only beat up on automatic VTEC ludes or bad drivers in manual VTEC ludes....

 

yea ... but to a nub with a vtec..... iam pretty sure you cant beat it if there were two of you in a h22 and h23 racing yourself........hmmm who will win duhhhhhhh
the h22......(this is considering stock ludes)

 

spanishlude is there anything done to the car?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spanishlude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i also forgot to mention i can beat v-tech ludes also</TD></TR></TABLE>

nah, you cant
same weight, 160hp vs 190hp, you lose

 

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nah, you cant
same weight, 160hp vs 190hp, you lose


</TD></TR></TABLE>own3d lol. j/k man

 

But I can beat Ferrari's in my H23

 

What a tool. That SE trim level must give you a boost up top.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by luder94si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, the 4th gen Prelude Si/SE is 160HP just like the Civic Si, but there's a big difference...Torque & power-bands...</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is also another "difference". Gearing and weight. The civic has the advantage here.


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hmmm

The Prelude Si makes 160hp at 5800rpm. Which is about 700rpm from redline
The Civic Si makes 160hp at 7600rpm. Which is about 400rpm from redline

If you want to argue about a 300rpm difference from where power is delivered relative to the redline is the difference between calling the powerband "peaky" and the other "broad", I dont agree.

Lets use 2nd gear as an example.
The tranny in the Civic Si hits 60mph exactly at 8000rpm in 2nd gear.
The tranny in the Prelude Si hits 58mph at 6500rpm in 2nd gear.


See my point?


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These two sentences contradict each other. The H23's peak power does come on about 700rpm from redline, that is not "down low", it is not a turbo diesel. It does make its power up high relative to its redline. Its not like the peak power comes on at 5800rpm and the h23 has an 8k redline...

And I know this is a prelude forum, but in my experience the civic si is alittle quicker stock vs stock.

 

im not lying about beating a Si lude the kid in the civic had intake and full exhuast and fuel regulator he can beat a Si lude with intake and exhuast. Maby i do have a freak car. and the si lude driver is pretty good ive riden with him. thanks for comments keep them comming

 

kinda OT but aren't all 4th gen SE's Automatic? I've never seen a manual SE yet.

 

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wow, this kid got a long way without getting bashed for the spelling mistake above. you're lucky, most people get reamed.


Modified by mhgleitz at 7:08 PM 11/14/2003

 

i've seen a "supposed" SE prelude that was manual, it might of however just had the badge with leather interior, hehe

 

wow i didnt think a h23 would rev that high to 8000 rpm's.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spanishlude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not lying about beating a Si lude the kid in the civic had intake and full exhuast and fuel regulator he can beat a Si lude with intake and exhuast. Maby i do have a freak car. and the si lude driver is pretty good ive riden with him. thanks for comments keep them comming</TD></TR></TABLE>

now i'm confused, do you have a lude si or a civic si?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Type_SH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow i didnt think a h23 would rev that high to 8000 rpm's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spanishlude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not lying about beating a Si lude </TD></TR></TABLE>an si lude is not vtec if thats what you are thinking. so if you are saying you beat a lude si in your lude se, you didn't beat a vtec lude, you beat one with the same engine as yourself.

 

Yea.....I don't know about you beating VTEC Ludes man...
Hehe that sounds more like a automatic vtec or a guy that was afraid to rev up to higher RPM before shifting....

But yea I would say not possible....

 

There are SE MT but i think there are more AT out for the SE

 

Correct me if I'm wrong....but arent all Vtec 4th gen. MT (usdm anyways). Also, a Vtec prelude IS an Si, in fact all 4th gen Vtec ludes are Si's, but not all Si's are Vtec ludes. Now if we get into 5th gens....thats a whole 'nother story. I say congrats if he's really running that. I could keep up with my friends '95 Si Vtec H22a USDM, in my '93 Si H23a before he got Vafc, not now. NEways...my .02

kevin

 

I believe the 93 prelude VTECs are called prelude SI VTECs. They dropped the SI after 93.

 

wrong, 93 was technically called si vtec, but of course to differentiate the cars you are going to just call it a vtec if thats what you mean, or at least si vtec not just si. and 94-96 was just called vtec. but lets just say it is a 93 si vtec, then good for him, he can drive and the driver of the vtec can't.

 

I wonder if I can beat a VTECH lude in my VTEC lude!?!?