im looking at buying a car right now and it has a 1st gen swapped into it. should i go to the hassle of swapping in a 2nd gen, or just the tranny? or just rebuild the 1st gen. any help is appreciated

 

Just but an LS bottom and do lsvtec on that bad boy with the b16 trans and the b16 head...

 

CTR pistons, rods, and cams

 

Definately not woth the hassle to swap in the a2, build the one you have.

 

would ITR pistons fit into a b16 or would i need to purchase CTR pitsons?

 

itr's will fit, but get pct's; more compression, with p73's you will actually be lowering your compression

 

i have a set of ctr's for sale. email kanzenr91si@aol.com if interested

 

very intested, what does it include?

 

weiner...

 

i dont think i would buy a car with a swap in it, just to swap a different motor in it. Im sure you can find the same kind of car for cheaper, but with out the swap. If its the second gen you want then, just buy a car and buy a second gen motor for it.

 

they are the same engine, except for the cams and pistons, build the 1st gen.

 

to save yourself some money, just build the motor in the car from the oil pan up and you shouldn't have any problems. if you want a budget/oem build, ctr or itr parts will do wonders.

 

say i buy the car with the 1st gen b16, should i swap out the block for a larger one? i.e. a b18c5 block or b18c1? i guess a better question would be, what block should i swap on, if any?

 

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If you swap the block at all, it would be wise to go ahead with the LS block. It offers more torque than either the c1 or the c5 when equipped with a VTEC head. Also, you would probably want to go ahead and build the LS block before you put it in. It only comes with 9:1 compression from the factory so upping that to 11:1 would be nice. Also be sure to get some stronger rods and you may want to get the block sleeved while you're at it.

 

i was thinking of doing LS/vtec, but i cant afford it and especially the down time. what about a type r bottom end, would that be worth it? my friend did Ls/vtec and has his block still that i could pick up. worth it or no

 

ls/vtec isn't always the best way to go. keep in mind that the ls blocks weren't made to rev like the vtec heads that you're mating it with. when done right ls/vtec will do wonders, but that requires building up that bottom end to handle the vtec heads. going with a c1 or c5 end gives you the advantage of the bottom end made for high reving vtec. do a search on poorman's type r vs ls/vtec. it's been covered before many times. both setups have their ups and downs, but unless you're willing to shell out for doing ls/vtec the right way, i vote type r block. Especially if you have easy access to one.

 

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Wow, that is so off topic is isn't even funny. What the hell is going on with this board.

1st gen vs. 2nd gen, what car is it going in?

We need more specs...

 

its in a 91 crx w/ a 1st gen b16