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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 12:41 PM
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in a 89 crx ..."preppy b16a motor with gsr head, dual springs in the head to rev to 9Krpm, reprogrammed ecu, greddy header and 2.25" crimp bent exhaust, old skool JUN adj cam gears ... $3800"

what do u guys think?
what questions should i ask?
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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well first if it does have a GSR head then it's probably been converted to OBD1 with a P72 ECU. All B16's were dual spring except the automatics in Japan unless he got a auto B16 and it happened to be mated with a manaual tranny.

It will already rev to 8K but with aftermarket springs it will safely rev up to 10K but there isn't any power unles you get aftermarket cams and port your head.

ok the greddy header is beleivable and so is the 2.25 crimp bent exhaust. I honestly think that's a little high for a CRX with a B16 and would offer close to $3200 just depening on details of the car and after looking at pics.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 07:25 AM
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thanks for the advice...
so is the gsr head a bad idea?
i want something that will be pretty reliable...
anybody else with some advice please.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 07:46 AM
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just to add ...

with rebuilt P30 high dome pistons
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 08:03 AM
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does this price include shipping? r u doing the install?
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 08:06 AM
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P30 pistons are from a JDM B16A which raise your compression a little. The GSR head also raises your compression a little bit and even a little bit more aggressive cams then the stock B16 head. From what I know the GSR head has a higher CFM (153) flow rate compaired to the B16 (151). The GSR head isn't a bad idea it mostly depends on the intake manfifold. do know what the manifold looks like? if not here are some pics....

GSR


B16


To let you know according to http://www.c-speedracing.com/h...c.php your compression should be about 11.29 if you get a 1 layer head gasket. Also do you know if the car has been converted to OBD1?

O yeah here's the headflow diagram just to let you know


seems like a good idea to me I would go for it but offer a lower price
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 08:09 AM
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No shipping, I would pick it up. The guy is doing the swap, but he's pro.

what is cfm?
I am asking right now about obd-1 conversion.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 08:17 AM
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CFM= Cubic feet per minute
is a measurement of air flow..
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lothian110 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No shipping, I would pick it up. The guy is doing the swap, but he's pro.

what is cfm?
I am asking right now about obd-1 conversion.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Make sure you ask what ECU and intake manifold he has as well

CFM - Cubic Feet per Minute
it's how much air is going through the head. The higher the # the more air you have to compress during combustion which = more power. There's more engine theory to this but that's just the basic of it
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 08:36 AM
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You guys are being a HUGE help. Thanks alot. When I get all the info from the guy I'll post it up and you guys can tell me what you think. Thanks again.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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cool just keep us updated.......HONDA TECH OWNS JoO!
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 10:43 AM
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Default Re: what do u think about this deal? (wicked B16)

swap remains non-obd or obd0 (which ever term u prefer)
the ecu is a reprogrammed PR3
intake manfold is stock gsr
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 11:13 AM
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If he's running a GSR manifold then his secondary butterflies are either not hooked up or opening all the way or closed there's no diversity. There is a way to hook them up through vaccuum but your going to have **** for low end torque.

I would buy it but switch out the intake manifold ASAP or convert to OBD1 and start looking for a OBD1 P72. If he's using a GSR fuel rail then your set unless he has the B16 fuel rail/injectors on the head. If you do deceide to convert to OBD1 you will need a OBD1 dizzy for that head. Everything else should be plug and play since GSR's do not have a resistor box for saturated injectors

it's a odd combo but you could make that into a pretty fun car. I would just ask for a little lower price then what he's giving you.

hope this helps
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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So if he is using a gsr fuel rail am i gonna still want to convert to obd1?
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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Default Re: what do u think about this deal? (lothian110)

no you don't have to but if your going to use that intake manifold then I would recommend you convert to OBD1 and use a P72 ECU.

I'm sure he's using stock B16 injectors and fuel rail since those are plug and play. You could also use GSR Injecotrs but the clips are different so you'll have to splice those into the CRX wiring.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 12:00 PM
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Thanks for the advice. This guy is actually putting the swap together for me, so nothing is made yet, but i'll see what we can do about it. Anyone selling p72 ecu's here? good looking out wicked!

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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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This 3800 comes with the car right?

You mentioned absolutely nothing about the condition of the car.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 12:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lothian110 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the advice. This guy is actually putting the swap together for me, so nothing is made yet, but i'll see what we can do about it. Anyone selling p72 ecu's here? good looking out wicked!

honda tech does own me</TD></TR></TABLE>

hold on man before you make your decision you said he's putting this swap together? what's in there now? Also you have any pics of the car?
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 12:06 PM
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yes it comes with the car... its an 89 si... i havent seen it but the frame is straight and little to no rust.. full interior... im going to see it tonight...
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 12:09 PM
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Nothing is in it now.. its just rolling chassis... i dont have pics of the car but i hope to get them tonight im supposed to go check it out tonight...

He would be putting the swap together from parts he already has...
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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doesnt' sound to bad. seems like he's charging mostly for putting the swap together and installing. Are you getting a mount kit or you using stock mounts from a EG and integra?

how many miles are on the car and does it have full interior in decent shape?
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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I am going to see the car late tonight (after midnight)... so I will take pictures and post them. I will also find out the rest of the info after i talk to the guy again.

Stay tuned!!!
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 12:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lothian110 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am going to see the car late tonight (after midnight)... so I will take pictures and post them. I will also find out the rest of the info after i talk to the guy again.

Stay tuned!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>


....................To be continued [Music] DUN DU DUNT DUN [/music]
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 07:21 PM
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Default Re: what do u think about this deal? (wicked B16)

HOLD up, anybody mind if I cut in?

Here's my deal:

89 crx si, ZC engine, one of a kind wings west body kit(apparently, but I haven't found it anywhere yet) KYB struts, coilovers, 16"TSW rims, new ACT clutch, full greddy catback with resignator chamber, relocated battery, intake, functional spy hood scoop (this looks amazing), wings west spoiler, replaced axles, new raadiator, strut bar, short shifter, indiglo gauges, chipped ecu, custom interior, CD player W/remote, GT grant steering wheel, black lights, type R shiftknob, front pioneer speakers, 91Si seats, new timing belt.

I get all the details.....well at least most of them.

It also has a nice silver paint job.

going price=3900 yay or nay boys?
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Old Nov 15, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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all I have to say is be careful!!!! I just drove 5 hrs to and 5 back to pick up a car that was the biggest POS I ever seen!!!! for god sakes the frickin ground effects were screwed in on side!!! The flippin pics he sent me were of the car a year ago, right after he had bought it. Needless to say i was just a tiny bit pissed!!!! What a hump monkey!!! that little b****!
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