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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 11:09 AM
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Default Anyone here with a road-racing Prelude...

Especially cars with slicks. What issues have you had with the oiling system, specifically the oil pan. Leave it alone? Overfill? Accusump? Baffled pan? I'm afraid on my mid-engine Mini I'm going to have problems... Right now the "solution" is an Accusump, and maybe later a baffled pan, but since I haven't driven it at the track yet, I have no idea if it'll work.

What would be really helpful would be to know how a good baffled H22A pan is constructed...
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 11:13 AM
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I"m not on slicks yet, but I track my prelude quite often and make it a habit to overfill. Usually run the car 1/4 qt. over , maybe a little more. Haven't come across any starvation problems yet.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 12:05 PM
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the moroso oil pan is baffled for acceleration/deceleration, not left & right, correct?
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 12:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Greyout &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the moroso oil pan is baffled for acceleration/deceleration, not left & right, correct?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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Didn't know that, but heard roadracers don't think much of it.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 12:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kb58 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Didn't know that, but heard roadracers don't think much of it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mostly because a stock oilpan will do the job. (baffled, of course) Cheaper and effective.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Mostly because a stock oilpan will do the job. (baffled, of course) Cheaper and effective.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, it won't, you will need an accusump setup in the car you are building.. I have to run over a qt over full to keep mine on hi cam on transitional or hard left hand corners.. And I have put baffles in my pan, and it did help slightly.. The h22 pickup is designed horribly, and is basically almost in the middle of the pan, not the middle of the "dip"..

Stock pan for B series is fine, they come with factory baffles, h/f series pans are just a dish, no oil altering devices what so ever in the pans..
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Mostly because a stock oilpan will do the job. (baffled, of course) Cheaper and effective.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My comment was only directed at use of the moroso pan, not the accusump
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chris N &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

My comment was only directed at use of the moroso pan, not the accusump </TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh, sorry for the confusion.. He is still going to have to get an accusump..
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 01:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Honda318dx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Oh, sorry for the confusion.. He is still going to have to get an accusump.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

No problem whatsoever!

Agreed about the accusump

Chris - who didn't want to be seen as a purveyor of misinformation... that's all.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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Thanks for the comments... keep them coming. Yes I'm going to use a 2-qt Accusump (though they have their own "issues.") I also have a spare pan and pick up I plan to modify, once I decide on the best design.
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 05:03 AM
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Just shorten the actually pickup line by about 1.5", and re-weld it back together, or sleeve it and weld it.. Then the pickup will be in the middle of the "sump", now you can actually put some decent size baffles on the passenger side of the "sump"..
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 06:37 AM
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Seems like we, as a group, could come up with a "how to baffle an oil pan," article. I guess this pertains more to the H22 guys. Huh, did I just volunteer?
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 06:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kb58 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Huh, did I just volunteer?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, you do seem to have some talent at documenting stuff - as your Mini construction site proves... Maybe a chapter in there on how you baffled your oil pan?
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 11:20 AM
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With graphic photos showing, "Well *this* one didn't work." Yeah I'll come up with something and have pictures. If it works really well (meaning with no Accusump) perhaps I'll produce them . I've read though that modifying the steel pan is asking for trouble due to the type of metal it is. I do have an aluminum one, those are prettier any way. We'll see.
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