Can i chnage to synthetic from regular oil
Hi guyz i came up with a new question hope fully as alawys i would get a positive feedback. I was thinking of changing my oil from regular oil to synthetic is it worth it? i have 98 accord v6 its very good condition they guy who kept it took it regularly to Honda dealers for maintenance. I was thinking of changing the oil type any suggestion please post them thanks a lot in advance ..
oF course the search button is not broken but the thing is i know some people fron HONDA say dont do it and while researching some say its ok but some say you would ruin your car. So i dont wanna ruin my car cause i have earned the money by slaving at Krispy Kreme and washing dishes.... so i just need an advice and i m looking for people who know about it thanks a lot
I switched mine to synthetic from dino oil 67,000 miles ago, and not a single problem since! Original motor is still in 100% mint condition (can we say only 4psi compression variation across all 4?!? 199-203
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97F22B2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont change at all unless your running boost or higher compression like 12 to 1. its just a apin in the *** later down the road.
and KG is right, use the damn search button.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You sound just like the people at Honda well i would wait and search more on it.
and KG is right, use the damn search button.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You sound just like the people at Honda well i would wait and search more on it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97F22B2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dont change at all unless your running boost or higher compression like 12 to 1. its just a apin in the *** later down the road.
and KG is right, use the damn search button.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I hear people say this and People say it's a waste but NO ONE gives any reasons or gives any FACTS
There is No problem to change your oil from Dino to Synth.
There is No Problem to change from Synth to Dino
Honestly this subject has been covered many times and searching will give you GOOD results and good threads on this subject
and KG is right, use the damn search button.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I hear people say this and People say it's a waste but NO ONE gives any reasons or gives any FACTS
There is No problem to change your oil from Dino to Synth.
There is No Problem to change from Synth to Dino
Honestly this subject has been covered many times and searching will give you GOOD results and good threads on this subject
because when you switch from regular oil to synthetic you start to have more oil leaks and seals go bad. The reason is standard oil leaves deposits on seals and common places that need lubricated, causing them to stop leaking if they possibly go bad. When you introduce synthetic or even synthetic blend it cleans out those deposits and those seals that pssibly have gone bad will leak, thus causing piston rings to go bad and the like, hell the main seal might even begin leaking.
I changed to synthetic blend when i went boost and took the risk of having these problems because when boost is introduced it gets a alot hotter in your combustion chambers so synthetic or synthetic blend doesnt break down as easily same as high compression.
Are you happy now?
I changed to synthetic blend when i went boost and took the risk of having these problems because when boost is introduced it gets a alot hotter in your combustion chambers so synthetic or synthetic blend doesnt break down as easily same as high compression.
Are you happy now?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97F22B2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Are you happy now?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Perfectly Satisfied
Are you happy now?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Perfectly Satisfied
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97F22B2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">because when you switch from regular oil to synthetic you start to have more oil leaks and seals go bad. The reason is standard oil leaves deposits on seals and common places that need lubricated, causing them to stop leaking if they possibly go bad. When you introduce synthetic or even synthetic blend it cleans out those deposits and those seals that pssibly have gone bad will leak, thus causing piston rings to go bad and the like, hell the main seal might even begin leaking.</TD></TR></TABLE>
actually the dino oil is just covering up a real problem. switching to syn doesn't cause the problem, just unmasks it. if switching to syn lets your main seal leak then you are close to needing a new one anyway. It doesn't MAKE the piston rings go bad, synthetic is just more likely to get by them.
If you find that you can't keep synthetic in your motor, you can always start putting dino juice back into it.
actually the dino oil is just covering up a real problem. switching to syn doesn't cause the problem, just unmasks it. if switching to syn lets your main seal leak then you are close to needing a new one anyway. It doesn't MAKE the piston rings go bad, synthetic is just more likely to get by them.
If you find that you can't keep synthetic in your motor, you can always start putting dino juice back into it.
this is something i pulled from the mobil1.com website in the myths section
You should break in your engine with conventional oil, then switch to Mobil 1.
You can start using Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ in new vehicles at any time, even in brand-new vehicles. In fact, Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ is original equipment (it is installed at the factory) in:
Chevrolet Corvette
All Porsche vehicles
Mercedes-Benz AMG vehicles
Dodge Viper
Ford Mustang Cobra R
All Aston Martin cars
One of the myths that persists about Mobil 1 is that new engines require a break-in period with conventional oil. Current engine manufacturing technology does not require this break-in period. As indicated by the decisions of the engineers who design these high-performance cars, Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ can be used in an engine from the day you drive the car off the showroom floor.
You don't have to change the oil as often when using Mobil 1.
While Mobil 1 has given excellent results in extended oil drain tests, ExxonMobil prefers to remain conservative with oil drain recommendations. ExxonMobil engineers recommend that you can go all the way to the maximum mileage or time frame shown in your owner's manual for oil changes when using Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™. This allows the reserve protection capabilities of Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ to cover unusual or unexpected driving conditions.
Oil change intervals can be as short as 3,000 miles or as long as 15,000 miles on some new cars. Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™'s high-performance reserves can give you the confidence to go the full mileage or time frame recommended by the vehicle manufacturer. Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ is especially suitable for the latest vehicles with extended drain intervals or vehicles with oil monitoring systems that vary oil drain intervals.
Using Mobil 1 will void my new-car warranty.
With the exception of the Mazda rotary engine (Mazda does not recommend any synthetic motor oils), Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ will not void new-car warranties. Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ exceeds the API and ILSAC motor oil service requirements of all new-car manufacturers, both import and domestic. If in doubt, always check your vehicle owner's manual or contact your vehicle's manufacturer.
Mobil 1 can't be used in diesel engines.
Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ will provide excellent service for passenger car and light-duty truck diesel engines (API CF or CD), as well as European diesel cars that require ACEA-quality oils. (This is the oil specification used in Europe and developed by European car companies.)
Heavy-duty truck engines that require API CE, CF-4, CG-4, CH-4 or CI-4 should use one of the products from the Delvac® line – Mobil Delvac 1® synthetic engine oil or Mobil Delvac 1300 Super®. Mobil Delvac 1 synthetic oil can help improve fuel economy, extend oil drain intervals, extend engine life, provide enhanced wear/cleanliness protection and reduce oil consumption. Delvac products can be purchased at a large number of truck stops across America, some retail stores, auto parts stores and from ExxonMobil distributors.
Motorcycles can't benefit from synthetic oil.
ExxonMobil offers three Mobil 1 fully synthetic motor oils for motorcycles:
Mobil 1 MX4T is recommended for on-road, high-performance, 4-cycle sport bikes, which are typically liquid cooled. It can also be used in air-cooled engines calling for a 10W-40 oil.
Mobil 1 V-Twin is a 20W-50 oil recommended for 4-cycle V-twin engines, particularly those that are air cooled and tend to run hotter than other types of engines.
Mobil 1 MX2T is recommended for 2-cycle motorcycle engines that specify the use of a pre-mix, 2-cycle engine oil.
Although Mobil 1 15W-50 has been used in 4-cycle motorcycle engines, ExxonMobil engineers recommend using Mobil 1 Motorcycle Oils, since they have been specifically optimized for motorcycle applications. Be sure to follow your owner's manual for recommended oil and filter change frequencies.
Mobil 1 will leak out of the seals of older cars.
Mobil 1 does not cause leaks. In fact, new Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ was tested in dozens of industry standard and OEM tests to prove its seal performance. It is fully compatible with the elastomeric materials from which all automotive seals and gaskets are made.
ExxonMobil engineers are wary of conventional oils that tout their use of additional seal-swelling agents. With extended use, these agents can over-soften engine seals, resulting in leaks. More to the point, an oil additive will not rejuvenate worn or damaged seals. The damaged seal may have been caused by a worn rotating metal component in the engine.
If an older engine is in good condition and does not have oil leaks, Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ provides the same advantages as when used in a new engine. ExxonMobil recommends taking measures to repair the leaks, then using Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™. ExxonMobil also always recommends following the automobile manufacturer's manual for the proper oil to use.
Mobil 1 requires a special oil filter.
While ExxonMobil recommends that you use a high-quality filter, you can use the same type of oil filter that you would normally use with conventional oil. ExxonMobil does offer a very high-quality oil filter that is a perfect companion to Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™. The Mobil 1 High Efficiency Oil Filter contains synthetic fibers instead of the typical cellulose filter media. With a 95-percent efficiency rating (under SAE J806 tests for capacity and contamination removal), the Mobil 1 filter is much more efficient than a typical oil filter, removing more particles per pass through the filter. In addition, the synthetic fibers in the Mobil 1 filter have less resistance to oil flow, reducing the potential for the filter to restrict the flow of oil to your engine.
I need to flush my engine before switching to Mobil 1.
No special preparation is necessary when switching from conventional motor oil to Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™.
You can't mix Mobil 1 with conventional oil.
Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ is fully compatible with conventional motor oils, semi-synthetic motor oils and other synthetic motor oils should it be necessary to mix them. But the superior performance of Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ will be reduced by diluting it.
You should break in your engine with conventional oil, then switch to Mobil 1.
You can start using Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ in new vehicles at any time, even in brand-new vehicles. In fact, Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ is original equipment (it is installed at the factory) in:
Chevrolet Corvette
All Porsche vehicles
Mercedes-Benz AMG vehicles
Dodge Viper
Ford Mustang Cobra R
All Aston Martin cars
One of the myths that persists about Mobil 1 is that new engines require a break-in period with conventional oil. Current engine manufacturing technology does not require this break-in period. As indicated by the decisions of the engineers who design these high-performance cars, Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ can be used in an engine from the day you drive the car off the showroom floor.
You don't have to change the oil as often when using Mobil 1.
While Mobil 1 has given excellent results in extended oil drain tests, ExxonMobil prefers to remain conservative with oil drain recommendations. ExxonMobil engineers recommend that you can go all the way to the maximum mileage or time frame shown in your owner's manual for oil changes when using Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™. This allows the reserve protection capabilities of Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ to cover unusual or unexpected driving conditions.
Oil change intervals can be as short as 3,000 miles or as long as 15,000 miles on some new cars. Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™'s high-performance reserves can give you the confidence to go the full mileage or time frame recommended by the vehicle manufacturer. Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ is especially suitable for the latest vehicles with extended drain intervals or vehicles with oil monitoring systems that vary oil drain intervals.
Using Mobil 1 will void my new-car warranty.
With the exception of the Mazda rotary engine (Mazda does not recommend any synthetic motor oils), Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ will not void new-car warranties. Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ exceeds the API and ILSAC motor oil service requirements of all new-car manufacturers, both import and domestic. If in doubt, always check your vehicle owner's manual or contact your vehicle's manufacturer.
Mobil 1 can't be used in diesel engines.
Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ will provide excellent service for passenger car and light-duty truck diesel engines (API CF or CD), as well as European diesel cars that require ACEA-quality oils. (This is the oil specification used in Europe and developed by European car companies.)
Heavy-duty truck engines that require API CE, CF-4, CG-4, CH-4 or CI-4 should use one of the products from the Delvac® line – Mobil Delvac 1® synthetic engine oil or Mobil Delvac 1300 Super®. Mobil Delvac 1 synthetic oil can help improve fuel economy, extend oil drain intervals, extend engine life, provide enhanced wear/cleanliness protection and reduce oil consumption. Delvac products can be purchased at a large number of truck stops across America, some retail stores, auto parts stores and from ExxonMobil distributors.
Motorcycles can't benefit from synthetic oil.
ExxonMobil offers three Mobil 1 fully synthetic motor oils for motorcycles:
Mobil 1 MX4T is recommended for on-road, high-performance, 4-cycle sport bikes, which are typically liquid cooled. It can also be used in air-cooled engines calling for a 10W-40 oil.
Mobil 1 V-Twin is a 20W-50 oil recommended for 4-cycle V-twin engines, particularly those that are air cooled and tend to run hotter than other types of engines.
Mobil 1 MX2T is recommended for 2-cycle motorcycle engines that specify the use of a pre-mix, 2-cycle engine oil.
Although Mobil 1 15W-50 has been used in 4-cycle motorcycle engines, ExxonMobil engineers recommend using Mobil 1 Motorcycle Oils, since they have been specifically optimized for motorcycle applications. Be sure to follow your owner's manual for recommended oil and filter change frequencies.
Mobil 1 will leak out of the seals of older cars.
Mobil 1 does not cause leaks. In fact, new Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ was tested in dozens of industry standard and OEM tests to prove its seal performance. It is fully compatible with the elastomeric materials from which all automotive seals and gaskets are made.
ExxonMobil engineers are wary of conventional oils that tout their use of additional seal-swelling agents. With extended use, these agents can over-soften engine seals, resulting in leaks. More to the point, an oil additive will not rejuvenate worn or damaged seals. The damaged seal may have been caused by a worn rotating metal component in the engine.
If an older engine is in good condition and does not have oil leaks, Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ provides the same advantages as when used in a new engine. ExxonMobil recommends taking measures to repair the leaks, then using Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™. ExxonMobil also always recommends following the automobile manufacturer's manual for the proper oil to use.
Mobil 1 requires a special oil filter.
While ExxonMobil recommends that you use a high-quality filter, you can use the same type of oil filter that you would normally use with conventional oil. ExxonMobil does offer a very high-quality oil filter that is a perfect companion to Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™. The Mobil 1 High Efficiency Oil Filter contains synthetic fibers instead of the typical cellulose filter media. With a 95-percent efficiency rating (under SAE J806 tests for capacity and contamination removal), the Mobil 1 filter is much more efficient than a typical oil filter, removing more particles per pass through the filter. In addition, the synthetic fibers in the Mobil 1 filter have less resistance to oil flow, reducing the potential for the filter to restrict the flow of oil to your engine.
I need to flush my engine before switching to Mobil 1.
No special preparation is necessary when switching from conventional motor oil to Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™.
You can't mix Mobil 1 with conventional oil.
Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ is fully compatible with conventional motor oils, semi-synthetic motor oils and other synthetic motor oils should it be necessary to mix them. But the superior performance of Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ will be reduced by diluting it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97F22B2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">because when you switch from regular oil to synthetic you start to have more oil leaks and seals go bad. The reason is standard oil leaves deposits on seals and common places that need lubricated, causing them to stop leaking if they possibly go bad. When you introduce synthetic or even synthetic blend it cleans out those deposits and those seals that pssibly have gone bad will leak, thus causing piston rings to go bad and the like, hell the main seal might even begin leaking.
I changed to synthetic blend when i went boost and took the risk of having these problems because when boost is introduced it gets a alot hotter in your combustion chambers so synthetic or synthetic blend doesnt break down as easily same as high compression.
Are you happy now?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No Not happy but it's a start. Your Statement seems to be an effort to provide a reason why it is not good to go from Dino to Synth, but the Subject says about changing from Synth to Dino.
The reason you have given are just that the Dino oil has deposites that cover up an existing problem. Well to solve this you can fix them OR you can add Lucas Oil stabalizer to the Synth oil. This stuff really works My Friend has an 89 accord with 250+ thousand miles on the Original engine. It started to burn oil last year and he added Lucas and this reduced the problem SIGNIFICANTLY.
Excellent Stuff
I changed to synthetic blend when i went boost and took the risk of having these problems because when boost is introduced it gets a alot hotter in your combustion chambers so synthetic or synthetic blend doesnt break down as easily same as high compression.
Are you happy now?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No Not happy but it's a start. Your Statement seems to be an effort to provide a reason why it is not good to go from Dino to Synth, but the Subject says about changing from Synth to Dino.
The reason you have given are just that the Dino oil has deposites that cover up an existing problem. Well to solve this you can fix them OR you can add Lucas Oil stabalizer to the Synth oil. This stuff really works My Friend has an 89 accord with 250+ thousand miles on the Original engine. It started to burn oil last year and he added Lucas and this reduced the problem SIGNIFICANTLY.
Excellent Stuff
it really doesnt matter one way or another too me, i just wouldnt switch due to me **** retentive about money, soo im not bagging on synthetic at all i kinda like in my car soo damn thick but as long as my motor dont seize i dont care.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97F22B2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it really doesnt matter one way or another too me, i just wouldnt switch due to me **** retentive about money, soo im not bagging on synthetic at all i kinda like in my car soo damn thick but as long as my motor dont seize i dont care.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Lol then you would LOVE Lucas. It looks like Honey
Lol then you would LOVE Lucas. It looks like Honey
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KGAccord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Using Mobil 1 will void my new-car warranty.
With the exception of the Mazda rotary engine (Mazda does not recommend any synthetic motor oils)
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Now thats interesting. I wonder what is different about the rotary that makes synthetic inappropriate for it?
Using Mobil 1 will void my new-car warranty.
With the exception of the Mazda rotary engine (Mazda does not recommend any synthetic motor oils)
</TD></TR></TABLE>
Now thats interesting. I wonder what is different about the rotary that makes synthetic inappropriate for it?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jweller »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Now thats interesting. I wonder what is different about the rotary that makes synthetic inappropriate for it?</TD></TR></TABLE>
must have something to do with the seals i guess.
anyways it's amazing how much good oil info one can find by just reading the mobil1 website. it may be somewhat biased toward using mobil1, but i think the info on the site answers many of the questions that keep coming about oil.
Now thats interesting. I wonder what is different about the rotary that makes synthetic inappropriate for it?</TD></TR></TABLE>
must have something to do with the seals i guess.
anyways it's amazing how much good oil info one can find by just reading the mobil1 website. it may be somewhat biased toward using mobil1, but i think the info on the site answers many of the questions that keep coming about oil.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by seven of 9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Lol then you would LOVE Lucas. It looks like Honey</TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually I saw a show on Speed Vision about Lucas Oils. When it was put in the motor it lost its viscosity and bubbled up. When I was put in the Transmission it worked and stayed its texture. Correct me if I'm wrong. It's been a while since I've seen it.
Lol then you would LOVE Lucas. It looks like Honey</TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually I saw a show on Speed Vision about Lucas Oils. When it was put in the motor it lost its viscosity and bubbled up. When I was put in the Transmission it worked and stayed its texture. Correct me if I'm wrong. It's been a while since I've seen it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97F22B2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">because when you switch from regular oil to synthetic you start to have more oil leaks and seals go bad. The reason is standard oil leaves deposits on seals and common places that need lubricated, causing them to stop leaking if they possibly go bad. When you introduce synthetic or even synthetic blend it cleans out those deposits and those seals that pssibly have gone bad will leak, thus causing piston rings to go bad and the like, hell the main seal might even begin leaking.
I changed to synthetic blend when i went boost and took the risk of having these problems because when boost is introduced it gets a alot hotter in your combustion chambers so synthetic or synthetic blend doesnt break down as easily same as high compression.
Are you happy now?</TD></TR></TABLE>
it is fine to switch on a lower mileage car.
I changed to synthetic blend when i went boost and took the risk of having these problems because when boost is introduced it gets a alot hotter in your combustion chambers so synthetic or synthetic blend doesnt break down as easily same as high compression.
Are you happy now?</TD></TR></TABLE>
it is fine to switch on a lower mileage car.
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