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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 04:26 AM
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Just wondering what everone else thinks. I need a new battery, and I wanted to relocate mine to my trunk for the longest time. Now thats it's time to do it I'm thinking all the weight savings from a lightweight battery is lost back to the wiring needed to relocate it. Does taking 25 lbs from the front and putting 12 lbs in the back really help balance the car, or should i just put the light battery where it's always been anyway? I'm not really in need of space under the hood or anything.
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 05:03 AM
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IMO screw the light weight battery! if a stock battery weighs 25lbs and you put that in the trunk, you have accomplished a weight transfer of 50lbs. but if your worried about weight start here...

carbon fiber hood saves 20lbs
remove ac saves 25lbs

then get your car corner weighted and see where you actually need the extra weight of the battery to keep your car the most balanced. ie 50/50 weight distribution
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 05:08 AM
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So is balancing the weight more beneficial than just removing the weight completely? Also, as far as relocating a wet cell, isn't there like some sorta fumes that it gives off that can make you go prematurely bald or something?
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 05:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jolt-tsp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So is balancing the weight more beneficial than just removing the weight completely?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes and no. when I said screw the lightweight battery I meant don't buy it because of the price tag. especially when it's a good way to move some weight to the back of the car. now I have know idea what your hook-up is, or what battery you were going to buy, I was really just basing that on the SPOON battery which goes for about $300. If you were to spend $300 on a carbon fiber hood and locate a stock battery in the trunk, IMO you would be better off. By doing it that way you save about 50lbs off the front, put 50lbs in the rear for a total of a 100lbs weight transfer just putting a light weight battery in your trunk is a weight transfer of only 24lbs

just my opinion tho
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 07:08 AM
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Makes sense, I'll just pick up another cheapo battery and look for my weight savings elsewhere for now. Thanks for the input
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 07:25 AM
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This is a pretty nice kit from summit racing http://store.summitracing.com/...1200A
They sell it at a decent price too.
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 07:32 AM
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I just have a Odessy battery under my hood. Much smaller than the stock battery and have used it for 18k miles with no problems. Its the metal jacket one with 625 cranking amps, if I remember right.
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 07:49 AM
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im also wondering about the fumes. i heard that the battery has to have some sort of "vented" space. i'm also scared of it tipping, and spilling. i was going to get one of the optima batteries, but they are very heavy. i think im going to do the relocation also, but i need to know if its ok with the oem battery, and where exactly to put it in the trunk.
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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I read up a little more, you can get a marine battery case for around $15. They supposedly protect from the fumes. That kit on summit came with such a case as well as everything else you need (didn't see a master power switch in that kit which is required for SCCA racing, but you can throw one of those on easily enough).
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by staticchmbr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im also wondering about the fumes. i heard that the battery has to have some sort of "vented" space. i'm also scared of it tipping, and spilling. i was going to get one of the optima batteries, but they are very heavy. i think im going to do the relocation also, but i need to know if its ok with the oem battery, and where exactly to put it in the trunk. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes you need to vent it. and it won't tip as long as you do it right. get the summit kit or sum'n similier and bolt it to the trunk floor. the kit will come with the vent and all the hardware.
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 09:46 AM
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If you are really concerned about balance get the car corner weighted with you in it..

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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 10:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94EG6HB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you are really concerned about balance get the car corner weighted with you in it..

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yea, that was allready stated
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 11:18 AM
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Umm, might sound dumb.. but.. where can you get the car corner weighted? Truck stops can't do that.. can they?
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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screw getting a SPOON battery for $300. Get one of these for like $25 and its the same thing... http://www.JDMshit.com/Battery
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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Where do you get that battery? I can't find it for sale on the site.
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 11:35 AM
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ttt
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 05:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jolt-tsp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where do you get that battery? I can't find it for sale on the site.</TD></TR></TABLE>

try calling them.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 05:48 AM
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i emailed them. when i get a response, if no one has replied w/ the info, i'll post it. im interested as well.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 06:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nerdsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i emailed them. when i get a response, if no one has replied w/ the info, i'll post it. im interested as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

good info keep us updated.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 06:21 AM
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if you put your battery in the trunk, don't certain tracks make you have an external kill switch to race? why?
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 06:29 AM
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there is another site where you can order it from, but I can't remember the link. You will need the battery and some car battery terminals.
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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This is what I got back from Newman @ JDMShit.com:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Newman @ JDMShit.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The battery was purchased from http://www.surplusev.com and it the same spec as a Hawker GTP battery. We do not carry them for sale.

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I just might be buying one of these batteries soon.
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nerdsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is what I got back from Newman @ JDMShit.com:


I just might be buying one of these batteries soon.</TD></TR></TABLE>

"newman" is his screen name on here also, correct?
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 08:25 PM
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i have the summit battery box and a hawker genesis G16ep battery. The battery works perfectly fine, starting the car right up no problem and has a surprisingly long life (like leaving the lights or radio on with the car off). There are many places online where you can get it from, just search. I ordered mine from portable power systems for only like 70bucks. great buy since i needed a new battery anyway, and this one is only 13.5 lbs. It is basically the same exact battery as the one pictured on jdm ****. The one they have seems to be the G13EP, which weighs a little less. They look exactly the same and have the same dimensions though. Less weight means less "life."

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for the sake of the original thread topic...i have mine located on the passenger rearmost corner of my trunk, next to my NX bottle. The battery box is much bigger than the battery, so i built a mount for it to keep it secure in the box.
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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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Optima now makes a stock replacement battery for civics. not sure of the weight. But Ac saves 25 lbs and PS saves u 19 lbs. Just another note. Removing PS gives a b16 4 whp and 2 ft lb of torqe.
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