Reference the following posts on the bobistheoilguy forum:
http://theoildrop.server101.co...00974
http://theoildrop.server101.co...01071

Interesting read, and after finding this info I emailed manchester honda (where I usually buy my oil filters in the case of 10 pricing), they updated their website with qty10 special pricing for s2000 oil filters... looks like my quest for a large size oem oil filter replacement (why did honda go with those new dinky filters?) is over.. last thing that remains is whether or not the oil filter for the s2000 fits my car (or any other bseries).. most have stated that it does fit but i need to make sure before i buy 10 of these (recently i've been shafted too many times with things that should/would fit the Si only to find out it doesn't fit the Canadian SiR)

coles notes:
OEM s2000 oil filter == hamp == toyo-roki
fits (?) all hondas and cheap at manchester honda in case of 10

(i am in no way affiliated with honda, manchester honda yadda yadda yadda save my *** crap, use/try this at your own discretion)

 

After reading the two posts you have listed, it seems as if the new smaller honda filter is pretty close in construction and build quality when compared to the S2000 filter, plus we don't even know if they fit a B-series engine. I see no reason in switching over to the S2000 filter, do you??????

 

The s2000 fits.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RGoose18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I see no reason in switching over to the S2000 filter, do you??????</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes.. it's bigger (or the same size as the previous p0h filters as opposed to the 'new' smaller filters.. do YOU see the reason honda made the switch to this tinier filter for all honda's?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sil &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yes.. it's bigger (or the same size as the previous p0h filters as opposed to the 'new' smaller filters.. do YOU see the reason honda made the switch to this tinier filter for all honda's?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Probably more cost effective

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B2FiNiTY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The s2000 fits. </TD></TR></TABLE>
good info.. it's too bad there's little info on the filter itself.. much easier to get/find info on oil filters that are non-oem..

 

Personally I was not too happy when I heard honda had switched nearly all their oil filters to Fram filters, althought the build quality seems to be excellent. Far superior to it's Wal-Mart counterpart. What are the benefits of going w/ the slightly larger S2000 filter.........and tell me something other than "it can filter more oil dumbass"

 

I thought the Fram filters were of low quality?

 

The quality for OEM honda S2000 oil filter is same as HAMP japan oil filter?

The S2000 oil filter seems bigger than the one that honda or acura is selling. Will that increase the oil pressure or any harm to the engine?

S2000 oil filter will fit on any Acuras or Hondas like RSX, 3.2 TL, ITR and Civics?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RGoose18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and tell me something other than "it can filter more oil dumbass" </TD></TR></TABLE>
one would assume that with the larger filter, presumably (and it's true in this case) there is more filter media.. this would mean it would flow better (assuming the same filter media).. increased capacity could also mean cooler oil and possibly less 'dirt' per quart, but this is a tiny difference given the small difference in volume..

plus it give me a warm fuzzy feeling inside that 'bigger is better'..

 

There is always the debate between oil pressure and volume.

I'm when it comes to this. But i know lot's of people pay good money for the Smaller Hamp filter. Which goes against the theory of the Larger Hamp s2000 filter

I'm lost....(as usual)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sil &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
one would assume that with the larger filter, presumably (and it's true in this case) there is more filter media.. this would mean it would flow better (assuming the same filter media).. increased capacity could also mean cooler oil and possibly less 'dirt' per quart, but this is a tiny difference given the small difference in volume..

plus it give me a warm fuzzy feeling inside that 'bigger is better'..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wouldn't the increased oil pressure from the smaller ones help in our engines which depend greatly on o.p??

 

It may be a bigger filter but the oil pressure going through an s2000 motor
is different than a civic, integra, or accord. That filter's bypass pressure
setting is different for that reason so I would just stick with what honda designates
for our cars, they should know since they designed it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00JunSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It may be a bigger filter but the oil pressure going through an s2000 motor
is different than a civic, integra, or accord. That filter's bypass pressure
setting is different for that reason so I would just stick with what honda designates
for our cars, they should know since they designed it </TD></TR></TABLE>

Valid Point

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00JunSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It may be a bigger filter but the oil pressure going through an s2000 motor
is different than a civic, integra, or accord. That filter's bypass pressure
setting is different for that reason so I would just stick with what honda designates
for our cars, they should know since they designed it </TD></TR></TABLE>

then how did the oil pressure in my car change when honda decided to go with smaller filters?? .. also, where did you get bypass pressure settings for the OEM filters?

 

It seems like the small OEM oil filter is originally design for the new honda engines.

Honda may want to save money on making two different kinds of oil filters that will also works on other hondas or acuras . Therefore, Honda discontinued for old bigger OEM filter.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RGoose18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Personally I was not too happy when I heard honda had switched nearly all their oil filters to Fram filters, althought the build quality seems to be excellent. Far superior to it's Wal-Mart counterpart. What are the benefits of going w/ the slightly larger S2000 filter.........and tell me something other than "it can filter more oil dumbass" </TD></TR></TABLE>

Smaller filters will increase oil pressure which is good for track and N/A motors...but if u run a turbo on ur ITR like me you want to use the bigger ones for more filtration and so the oil feed line to the turbo pressure doesn't increase do to higher oil pressure and blow the seals....since turbo cars use more oil i just add about 1/4 more than N/A guys normally do...also if u gonna track the car with many turns like auto-x you wanna stick to a smaller filter so u don't drop out of vtec.

to confirm: S2000 filters will fit a ITR right?????

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R-1303 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">to confirm: S2000 filters will fit a ITR right?????</TD></TR></TABLE>

No one can confirm for sure will work for ITR or other Hondas or Acuras?

 

The filter work, but we don't know if it's detrimental or not to the motor. Bigger filter means a drop in oil pressure.

But seeing as how they have switched us off the big filter, does that mean that the increased oil pressure that the smaller filter induces will not hurt anything?

I believe it was Doctor Cortez who said that there was a power loss with the small HAMP, so would it be safe to say we would see a power loss with the small fram?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmspoonitr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The filter work, but we don't know if it's detrimental or not to the motor. Bigger filter means a drop in oil pressure.

But seeing as how they have switched us off the big filter, does that mean that the increased oil pressure that the smaller filter induces will not hurt anything?

I believe it was Doctor Cortez who said that there was a power loss with the small HAMP, so would it be safe to say we would see a power loss with the small fram?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The filter fits, I'd be interested to see a dyno plot of each of them. Obviously the power loss or gain would be minimal, but I don't see why an increase in oil pressure would result in a power loss. Any explanations?????

 

I don't think Honda would use a poor quality filter. Even if the filters are made by fram I am sure they are made to meet Honda specifications. The new filter is smaller in diameter, but if I remember correctly they are slightly longer than the old ones.

 

there's a bypass valve in the filter that is designed to open when the filter is clogged so that oil will still flow through the motor...that valve has different amount of pressure that will cause it to open depending on the filter.....imho i think it's best to use what is designated for our cars

 

ill just stick to my Bosch filters thanks

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00JunSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there's a bypass valve in the filter that is designed to open when the filter is clogged so that oil will still flow through the motor...that valve has different amount of pressure that will cause it to open depending on the filter.....imho i think it's best to use what is designated for our cars </TD></TR></TABLE>

So the RSX filter was designed for our b-series motors more than the S2000 filter huh? Interesting logic. What WAS designed for our cars has been discontinued by honda.

As for the RSX filter, they are more prone to leaking as itrsport and others have reported. I've stopped using them and am using bosch/filtech filters now. Might try the S2000 though.

And I'd really like to see the difference in oil pressure. Anyone with an OP gauge wanna test it?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dave-ROR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So the RSX filter was designed for our b-series motors more than the S2000 filter huh? Interesting logic. What WAS designed for our cars has been discontinued by honda.</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly what I was trying to say.. i'm sure it was about the economics than it was about what was 'designed' for our car.. ..
also, think about what was said about this bypass filter, if the filter gets too clogged, the pressure difference will be too great, and this bypass will be used to bypass the filter, so you still get oil.. think about this for a second, it's not a function of how it's designed for a specific car.. but how the filter itself was designed or is supposed to function.. has nothing to do with the car