Noticed that my car does not have VTec... (long story)
so with this in mind, do I go and get the dealer to give me the right car, or .... is VTec really worth it?? Can mods give me enough of a boost with out it???

 

get vtec, it is worth it without a doubt
it is very much worth it
hands down is it worth it
its worth more than all the tea in china
my opinion though

 

well first off lets clearify a few things:

1.) Did you pay for a GSR and only recieve a LS?

2.) were you misinformed?

3.) if you were told it was an LS and it was stickered and advertised as an LS then you got the right thing. IF you told the salsperson that you wanted a GSR and yet he mistakenly sold you an LS at the correct price then thats a simple error that they will fix for you im sure. I doubt its a con or anything, probably a miscommunication at most.

Now if you had full intentions of purchasing a GSR integra and paying that price then i would go get a different one. Now if the LS is adiquate for you then keep it. Please inform us of the answers to the questions above before i or we confuse you any further.

 

More misinformed than anything. The sales person believed that the car did have a VTec installed, and I did not check (stupid me).
Have seen LS with VTec, and I thought that was what I was getting. Guess I was wrong. anyway, as I said... misunderstanding, and stupid me.
just wondering if it is worth it to trade up because that is an option i have since the car is very new.
If I can turn the LS into a good little toy then I will just keep it.. but if its worth the upgrade to the VTec, then I will go get it.

Thanks for the response.

 

yes, it is possible to have an LS car with a VTEC head but it is a pretty tricky modifiation and no dealer will ever sell a car with that swap up. Or any engine swap for that matter.

As far as the question weather the GSR is worth it, well its really a matter of personal oppinion. Yes, out of the box the GSR is faster then the LS. Has more HP, higher RPM and you can build bigger HP. But there are draw backs, im not speaking for the GSR owners out there cause there are many and they are all happy. But they will tell you its a different animal. The LS does have better torque response and it comes on earlier. I personally own an LS. After driving both cars...in OE stock form i honestly prefered the way the LS felt in daily driving situations and money wasnt an issue. Again, in most cases a GSR will be margainly faster in stock trim, but there is just as much stuff you can do to the LS as you can with the GSR.

Some will even venture to say that the LS is a better candidate for a turbo set up. IT has different gearing then the GSR as well. There is alot to learn about integras and i by no means know it all. Drive both cars in stock form, drive them a long time, and then forget prices (if you can) and models. Choose which feels better to YOU.....not anyone else. Besides its gonna be your ride not ours.

good luck

 

LS integras only come with a non VTEC engine. The only way that you can have an LS with VTEC is if you go through the trouble of installing a VTEC head or swap in a VTEC engine. I'd definitely go back to the dealership and demand a GSR. You might want to talk to the manager and tell him that is salesperson is ignorant. This reminds me of the time when the dealer tried to tell me that the B18B engine in an LS that i was test driving had an engine like a new Prelude. I just laughed and took the keys. If you want to keep the LS, they are supposed to be good for boosting.

 

Once again thanks for the info.
From the searches I have been doing, it looks like you can do more mods to the LS than the GSR. Besides that, the car is a lot of fun to drive, even with out vtec...
I will decide tonight.
Thank you again.

 

First of all, be very careful on message boards about how you type VTEC. There are people who get so critical that they will scrutinize you for how you spell VTEC.

Secondly,
Did you pay for a VTEC equipped car,
or
Non-VTEC car?


[Modified by 2001 Integra GSR, 1:26 PM 9/5/2001]

 

actually, there are a lot more mods for the VTEC engine than the non-vtec engine...they are more benificial also

 

One of the main factors to consider is how you drive. If you want one of the best combinations of handling, refinement, fuel economy, value, and overall driving enjoyment you can get new or almost new for under $20,000, look no further than an LS. If you don't want to burn through a tank of gas every other day by spending all your time up around redline, look no further than an LS. If you don't plan to do much racing, look no further than an LS.

However, if you do plan to do some racing, and you're only happy when the needle is bouncing off the redline, then you're going to need VTEC, and you're going to need at least a GS-R.

Then you might want to think about mods later on. If handling is more important to you than max hp, then there's really nothing you can do with a GS-R that you can't do with an LS. In fact, in a lot of cases, the LS will be a little lighter than it's fully loaded, leather-laden GS-R counterpart.

Then again, unless you want to get into a serious turbo set-up with lots of boost, a Jackson Racing supercharged GS-R is going to be pretty tough to beat in terms of hp/torque numbers from a Honda.

So it's up to you. If the dealer sold you an LS for the price of a GS-R, definitely go back and get what you paid for. But if it was just a case of miscommunication, then as you can guess from my screen name, I'd just stick with the LS.

 

Go with the gs-r with vtec. There's nothing like the sound of a gs-r flying by at high rpm's. Also, I'd have to agree, a gs-r equipped with a jackson racing supercharger is pretty sweet.

 

yup, i love mine

 

Just because you have a GSR doesn't mean you'll be redlining every gear, driving like a maniac, burning tons of gas. Sure, it is fun, but you don't do it all the time. I've driven like a maniac and still gotten ~26-28mpg.

My opinion -
GSR: Better baseline. Gives you more HP in stock form for you to build from.
LS: Cheaper to begin with, meaning you can spend the money saved on mods.

I'm sure if you got and LS and used the money saved by not getting a GSR, you could beat a GSR easy while spending the same dough.

 

the LS is Imply (L)es(S)
I drive hard all the time ans still get 24-26 mpg!!! so shut up!
A GSR with cai/h/e is capable of breaking into the high 14's.
You can now find a GSr for almost the same price as an LS. A couple of months ago GSR's were selling for $18k before the RSX came out!

 

24-26mpg... dang gone!!!

I always got over 30mpg when I was NA!!!

i'm getting like 24mpg now with the JRSC and im running mad rich

 

yup, we had our 94 Integ LS, before I got my GSR, and OMG, it is a BIG difference!! Vtec makes you feel special

 

Don't listen to anyone, it's your car, just test drive both to see which car you favor the most and that will decide for yourself....LS turbo!!!

 

Get an LS turbo. Vtec doesn't save the world if you have turbo on your car. LS is a cheaper way to go.

 

all you guys sticking up for the LS are just jealous of the gs-r! lol

 

Go VTEC. You won't regret it. I would never trade my GSR for an LS. Try searching around a bit, as I'm sure the LS vs. GSR holy war has been covered before.

A turbo LS will haul ***, but won't be reliable to hold all that power for a sustained period unless you replace some internals. If you're going to do all that, you may as well boost a VTEC engine.

BTW, an LS chassis is no lighter than a GSR. It's the RS/ITR chassis that's lighter.

 

sounds like a flame war gonna happen lol...just get what you can afford..unless someone is offering you a free car..lol..then you should get a type r..lol

 

Yes an LS chassis is lighter then a GSR, but an RS is even lighter at that. The LS weighs the same as an R...where as the GSR is the heaviest model, along with the GS and the SE's

 

...but there is nothing quite as sweet as listening to your engine hit VTEC as you sit back in your leather seats with the moonroof tilted back...

I would never look back at another model after driving my GSR.

 

enjoy your car.. no matter what you have, someone will have something better than you.. don't worry so much about "VTEC" tunnel vision, GS-R's get stomped on by plenty of cars at autocross, track, and drag strip.. use your time with your car to find out what you want out of a car, and with that information, you can be a more informed buyer next time!

 

VTEC OR NOT? Well, first of all...how much did you pay for your teg? I paid $19500 for my GSR because after I found out a GS will cost me close to 17000...I said fudge it and spend 2500 more and got me a better model. It's all depend on what you want out of your car. You can do so much w/ your LS...turbo, ls vtec, or even do a type-r or gsr swap...

Jeff-