I installed this fender brace (aftermarket from japan) on my civic a few months ago but noticed an ITR at the junkyard today had a similar looking bar except it looked like it came stock from the factory.

If it does come stock on the ITR, it should fit onto civics too I'd think.
Any input?

mine:

I'll take a pic of the ITR one as soon as I go back there again.


Modified by gubo22 at 12:31 AM 10/28/2003

 

ITR does not come with a bar there.

 

Nope, just JDM aftermarket : Plenty out there!

 

what does this bar do exactly? holds rigidity?

 

i would like to see the stock itr one you are talking keep this up TTT

 

How did the company that made that bar come to the conclusion that those were flex points? Or did they just see two bolts sticking out and decide to make money making a bar to connect them together and saying it was from Japan?

 

Yes, I'm also curious. What is the purpose of this?

 

i was always under the impression that in a FWD car, you want it to be loose in the front and tight in the rear. trying to get rid of understeer is the key. with this in mind, why do people try to make the front so damn stiff?

 

I'd imagine it would also hurt drag racing fans.

 

There have been posts in the past in regards to how useful this bar is.
I'm going to the wrecker again in a few days and will take pictures of the bar.
Dr. Pooface, have you actually scene an ITR with out the fender to say it doesn't have the bar there?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gubo22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dr. Pooface, have you actually scene an ITR with out the fender to say it doesn't have the bar there?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, but never once have I heard mention of such bar. I am sure I would of on this board while people describe the differences between the ITR and a GSR or RS.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gubo22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There have been posts in the past in regards to how useful this bar is.
I'm going to the wrecker again in a few days and will take pictures of the bar.
Dr. Pooface, have you actually scene an ITR with out the fender to say it doesn't have the bar there?</TD></TR></TABLE>

go ahead and pull it. you'll be easily able to sell it.

 

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go ahead and pull it. you'll be easily able to sell it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well I didn't pull it off yet, but I took pictures of it today.

Where do you guys think it came from? JDM ITR maybe?

 

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You want the body to be stiff as possible so that the suspension is what moves and suspension action is consistant. My comment has nothing to do with the effects, if any, of that bar.

 

that's at B&E i saw the same things last time i was there and thought the same thing

 

I don't recall seeing that under there...it may be some kind of Canadian safety modification...I'd have to doublecheck.

While it may not do much, every little bit helps when it comes to chasis stiffness...especially on the DC2 which isn't all that stiff in my opinion (atleast compared to the latest offerings).

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM nerbie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that's at B&E i saw the same things last time i was there and thought the same thing</TD></TR></TABLE>

damn right LOL
gotta love Arman

 

For reference and Yes this has been posted and reposted time and time again:


These are the pooints at which the ITR has been reinforced.

 

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These are the pooints at which the ITR has been reinforced.
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Is this for ALL ITR's? JDM, CDM, USDM, UKDM, etc?

There are differences between them all. Including the bracing under the rear seats (which we know was introduced in US integras in the later '90's). I don't believe the UKDM have these.

 

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Is this for ALL ITR's? JDM, CDM, USDM, UKDM, etc?

There are differences between them all. Including the bracing under the rear seats (which we know was introduced in US integras in the later '90's). I don't believe the UKDM have these.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's directly from Autopedia so I'm guessing Just the USDM's.

 

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It's directly from Autopedia so I'm guessing Just the USDM's.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Regardless it's a good refresher, and it looks pretty

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For reference and Yes this has been posted and reposted time and time again:


These are the pooints at which the ITR has been reinforced.

Since this has been reposted time and time again, you should know where this bar came from then.
So????


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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gubo22 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Since this has been reposted time and time again, you should know where this bar came from then.
So????

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I should?

The Picture has been posted before and this discussion has been had multiple times. Sorry if my point wasn't crystal enough. I'm just trying to be helpful and thought that since this PIC wasn't here that some people could benefit from it since it clearly doesn't show the brace you are referring to and I don't remember the Canadian cars having or advertised to be having any more bracing. Of course I could be wrong.

I don't have a definitive answer about that bar but, wonder about your apparent hostility?

 

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I should?

The Picture has been posted before and this discussion has been had multiple times. Sorry if my point wasn't crystal enough. I'm just trying to be helpful and thought that since this PIC wasn't here that some people could benefit from it since it clearly doesn't show the brace you are referring to and I don't remember the Canadian cars having or advertised to be having any more bracing. Of course I could be wrong.

I don't have a definitive answer about that bar but, wonder about your apparent hostility?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I picked up the same feeling from your post that it has been covered time and time again, making me feel like I have asked a stupid question.

But I am sure it was a miss-communication.
Thanks for the pic. At least that shows that the stock ITR doesn't come with this bar.

 

The thing looks homemade.