OBD-0 has limp mode?

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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 08:18 PM
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Hey does anyone know if OBD-0 has limp mode? thanks
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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yup
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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Yeah. It'll retard the timing, and richen the mix if the knock sensor goes off, or if some other variables are detected.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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Do some obd-0 motors have knock sensors? b16's? I know the stock d16's dont have them.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 09:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sporkcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do some obd-0 motors have knock sensors? b16's? I know the stock d16's dont have them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

b16's do
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 09:41 PM
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Yep. All VTEC motors have them. (As far as I'm aware... prolly some exception though.)
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 11:08 PM
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are you guys sure? SOme guys told me there is no limp mode in obd-0....
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 11:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Waachback &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you guys sure? SOme guys told me there is no limp mode in obd-0....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmm i dunno, when my check engine light used to come on my car still felt as quick as it ever was.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 11:24 PM
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Then your car would immediately stop running as soon as it throws a code it would come to a screeching halt on the freeway at 3am in 0 degree weather or wherever you may be and you would be stuck until a towtruck driver can come and pick you up. That is why it is built with a limp mode so that you can continue to drive if one or more sensors ceases to exist, so you won't be left out in the cold. If you would like to read along about Honda ecus and how they function etc. I suggest looking here at my friend Dave's website.
http://www.pgmfi.org/phorum/
Oh yeah on the knock sensors the only OBD0 motor would be the B16, SOHC OBD1 D motors do not have knock sensors just all DOHC VTEC motors.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 11:45 PM
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My PR3 had a SERIOUS "limp mode" when it threw a MAP sensor code from the MAP sensing boost. MAN, the car felt like ***, and would hardly limp around at 1/8th throttle when it threw that code.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 06:06 AM
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My pm6 has a CEL now becuase of a busted TPS... still runs fine with it disconnected...
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 06:13 AM
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imo the obdo dont do have a limp mode
xcept the JDM Pr3 and PWO ecus that do have them

the real limp mode will be crank angle sensor wich makes u redline @ 3500
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 06:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Waachback &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are you guys sure? SOme guys told me there is no limp mode in obd-0....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Some homeless drunk stumbled up to me yesterday and yelled "the British are coming, the British are coming." It's amazing what "some" people will tell you.

And I think it depends on the type of code(or combination of codes) as to whether it goes into limp mode. But then again, I'm just some guy on the internet.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 08:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR Kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My PR3 had a SERIOUS "limp mode" when it threw a MAP sensor .</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have a pwo ecu. I am also using a B16 in my Civic. My Noc sensor was not hooked up. My car was quick. My secondaries opened but V-tec was useless. It was running a lot richer. You could smell the gas. By some wierd flook my V-tec opened up once under limp mode and I had to get it fixed right away. Wooooo hoooo.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 10:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solman74 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I have a pwo ecu. I am also using a B16 in my Civic. My Noc sensor was not hooked up. My car was quick. My secondaries opened but V-tec was useless. It was running a lot richer. You could smell the gas. By some wierd flook my V-tec opened up once under limp mode and I had to get it fixed right away. Wooooo hoooo. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You are aware that the B16a doesn't have "secondaries", right? Those were only on the H22 and the B18c1.

Get your facts straight. Misinformation &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; yuo.
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 03:46 AM
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The pm6/pr4/pm7's do have a limp mode. In fact, on the external rom ecus you can even remove the rom itself and the car will always run in limp mode. I once burnt a chip, put it in, and wondered why it ran so ***, then I realized I had just told my burner to erase the 29c256 without writing to it.
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 06:48 AM
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PM9 has limp mode too. i know cause my car is in limp mode right now (crank angle sensor; 3500 rev limit)
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 07:06 AM
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There is also an "open loop" mode.
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 07:27 AM
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open loop? illaborate please.
-spenc
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