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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 01:56 PM
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Hehehe
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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How does one wear the inside of the tire like that and the shoulder looks ok? Am i seeing this correct?
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How does one wear the inside of the tire like that and the shoulder looks ok? Am i seeing this correct?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wheel spin while exiting a corner, most likely with an open diff.

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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 03:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How does one wear the inside of the tire like that and the shoulder looks ok? Am i seeing this correct?</TD></TR></TABLE>

really high tire pressure, and maybe he isnt dumped without a camber kit??? hehe
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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if I had to guess just from looking at the pics, I would say he needs to lower the tire pressure and run more neg. camber.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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Getting back to the subject. Yes they look worn.
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Old Oct 23, 2003 | 10:33 PM
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That is right where you want your tires to be! That a way to drive! Tires are made to be worn down. ill drink to that

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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 02:55 AM
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I think Willard would try to get another weekend out of them!
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 05:03 AM
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Wouldn't that be less neg camber??
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 05:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RStoR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think Willard would try to get another weekend out of them! </TD></TR></TABLE>Will asked if he could buy them
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 05:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turfer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Wheel spin while exiting a corner, most likely with an open diff.

Rick</TD></TR></TABLE>I was pretty hard on the gas out of the corners. No LSD for me
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 05:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

really high tire pressure, and maybe he isnt dumped without a camber kit??? hehe</TD></TR></TABLE>Cold the tires were at 34. After a hot lap there were probably 38-40. I dropped my front coilovers down 3/4" which gave me 'maybe' 2 degrees camber. The tires were also a little worn from the previous 5 (yeah 5 baby) track events!
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 05:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrlegoman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cold the tires were at 34. After a hot lap there were probably 38-40. I dropped my front coilovers down 3/4" which gave me 'maybe' 2 degrees camber. The tires were also a little worn from the previous 5 (yeah 5 baby) track events!</TD></TR></TABLE>

And also 1/8" of toe in which would cause increased wear and poor turn-in.

Also, those look to be full-depth tread.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 07:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ausmith &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

And also 1/8" of toe in which would cause increased wear and poor turn-in.

Also, those look to be full-depth tread.</TD></TR></TABLE>I was having some problems pushing through the turns. Are the toe alignment kits from JC Whitney worth anything?
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 09:02 AM
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My tires started to wear that way because of too much toe-in.
Its always good to see someone using tires though!
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 12:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ausmith &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

And also 1/8" of toe in which would cause increased wear and poor turn-in.

Also, those look to be full-depth tread.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wrong way. you'd get toe out by lowering the car more. and it's likely a lot more then 1/8". if you look in the pic, his tires wore on the inside edge, not the outside. too much toe out+lots o camber+understeer+heavy throttle foot=baked tires

do you mean toe plates from jc whitney? they work pretty good. why not just set your ride height at the lower setting and get the toe straightened out then leave it alone??

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Old Oct 25, 2003 | 07:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrlegoman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Are the toe alignment kits from JC Whitney worth anything?</TD></TR></TABLE>

your tie rod ends are your OEM alignment kit.

and I'd run those tires another two weekends
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 04:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doctor CorteZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and I'd run those tires another two weekends </TD></TR></TABLE>I've got that one on my left rear right now. Probably gonna switch it out just cause I don't want to get cought in a rain storm with it.
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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 04:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by solo-x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

wrong way. you'd get toe out by lowering the car more. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Can anyone give an explanation why more toe out is obtained upon lowering?
Thanks.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by siisgood00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can anyone give an explanation why more toe out is obtained upon lowering?
Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The tie-rod attaches to the hub below and behind the axle. When the right side (for example) compresses, the hub moves upward the axle and tie-rod pivot about their inner mounting points. The tie-rod must travel a longer arc length than the axle because it is not at the center of the moving hub. So the tie-rod can either deform (extend), which would suck, or it pulls on the hub, which pivots about the axle. So the tie-rod pulls the back of the hub in to compensate for it's motion = toe-out.

It's kind of confusing to picture. Everything moves up, the tie-rod can't extend so it pulls in on the back of the hub.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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Im getting it... Ill pay special attention next time my wheels are off. Thanks!
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 12:21 PM
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Default Re: Do my tires look worn? (mrlegoman)

Ahhh... RE71s, right?

Ain't too many of those around anymore... I swear Miata guys are the only ones that use them.

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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 12:46 PM
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Its like the tie rods go from being a "T" to being a "Y" and they tug inward on the strut arms.
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 11:42 PM
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I agree with Clayton looks like the toe is wacked.
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