today i just bought a set of KW11, my impression is " this tire sucks" for people who is thinking of buying this set, sont waste ur money. the steering response is incredible slow, u turn your wheel after a sec the car start turning. and straight online i feel like skating on ice already(it's not snowing yet still about 10c degree), and my car does not pull hard as the stock tires, vtec i can only hear the sound but no speed. after all this tire is really cheap that's why i bought it, hopefully it will be good when it snows

dont buy this tires, put some more money to get better one not this one

 

snow tires are not supposed to give good steering feedback. I don't understand...

 

I don't know how much you got them for. I think they do their job (in winter) for the money. Like Corworth mentioned, you can't really expect them to be as good as the stock RE010s.

 

Testing winter tires when it's 50 degrees F outside is like testing R compound tires in the snow.

Winter tires generally handle worse than summer tires when the temperatures are moderate like they are now, but they stick better than summer tires when the temperatures are frigid and/or the roads are covered with snow and ice. This should not be news to anyone.

October is too early to put winter tires on the car, anywhere south of Nunavut. In Chicago, I generally put mine on some time in December.

 

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LOL Ken. Nunavut, who goes there??

Speaking of winter, i should get my VERY bald falken azenis off my car and put my S-03's on until the first hint of true winter temps. I'd hate to be stuck in a 'suprise' snow, sleet or cold rain in my bald tires.

Chris - King Lazy with respect to changing rims/tires on the car these days.

Edit - seriously, i don't know what you expected out of a winter tire. who cares about turnin??? and who cares about going fast, testing vtec and such on winter tires? I, Like scary Sean and his violent avatar, just don't get it.

 

The Kumho winter tires do have a incredibly soft sidewall. I bought a set for my CR-V, but I am not expecting anything but decent grip in the cold and snow. That is what they are made for. Corning on drypavement will chew them up quickly. The tread blocks will overheat and degrade. I won't put them on until it is consistently below 40 during the day.

If you were loooking for a better handling snow tire, try the Pilot Alpins or the Dunlop Sport M2/M3s. I had the latter on the S4 and they were awesome.

 

I just ordered my Arctic Alpins for the Civic. http://michelinman.com/catalog....html Oops, not R related... kill me.

 

oh well maybe, it's my first time in 2 years drive my R with winter tires, had a beater b4 but now it wont pass emission, so i guess my R wont be a sleep king anymore. 2 years 23000km on it
but i swear my beater could handle better with shitty winter tires compare to my R with this tires.

 

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december? waaaayyyy to late where i live. I usually put them on about this time of Oct just to be safe.

we usually get snow sometime in november. must be nice where you live. It snowed in boston this morning. granted it didn't stick but still.

But yeah, they're winter tires. 50 degrees and clear outside isn't going to tell you much.

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Very funny.

Average snowfall in inches for the entire month:
October: Chicago 0.4, Boston 0.0
November: Chicago 1.9, Boston 1.3
December: Chicago 8.1, Boston 7.6

Remember, too, that winter tires grip better when the temperatures are frigid, even when the roads are dry. But even there, I tend to wait till early December:

Average high temperature for the entire month, in degrees F:
October: Chicago 63.3, Boston 62.7
November: Chicago 48.4, Boston 52.2
December: Chicago 34.0, Boston 40.4

These are thirty-year averages. Source: Southern Regional Climate Center.

Incidentally, keep in mind that there are basically two kinds of winter tires:

1. Tires that are the best when there is snow and ice, but handling on dry pavement in moderate temperatures is so-so; these tires generally sell for ~$80/tire in the ITR stock size and include the Michelin Arctic Alpin and the Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50

2. Tires that still good when there is snow and ice, but handling on dry pavement in moderate temperatures is much better; these tires generally sell for ~$110/tire in the ITR stock size and include the Michelin Pilot Alpin and the Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22